Comments on: Florida Bans Fox Pens; Last Was In Walnut Hill

By: mallard

mallard — Sun, 27 Mar 2011 03:34:16 +0000

FWC, what a joke… They continue to show their ignorance. There are a few good apples in the bunch but overall just trash. Duck hunting,deer hunting and now fox running. What else can you screw up in florida. We are a joke to many states. Florida hunting is now run by human society propaganda and peta. I too grew up chasing fox in pens on a number of sat nights as a teen. I never seen a fox killed. I am not saying it never happend. I never herd or seen of it. They had plenty of hidding areas free from dogs. Could a dog stumble across a fox, I could imagine. Come on, if you eat meat, sit on a leather couch, wear leather shoes, use tooth paste. You are involved in taking of true innocent animals life in wich I have loved, raised and slaughterd for your guiltless convienience. How can we sit back and loose our god given rights.

By: Judith Hendrick

Judith Hendrick — Tue, 08 Feb 2011 18:49:44 +0000

Most of these comments seem to come from misguided information. This is a bloodsport and has absolutely in no way resembles traditional hunting. Foxes and coyotes ae trapped and thrown into penned unfamiliar and poorly unregulated environments. They become dependent on humans for dog good and later dogs are turned loose to chase them to exhaustion and rip them apart alive. These animals have little chance. They are attacked in the corner or the pen where they can no longer run. Packs of dogs pull them down by their hind legs while other attack them from the front. Frequently their legs are chewed off before they are killed. They are torn apart alive to the point of unrecognition. We have been training dogs for centuries by draging a scent – no live bait is needed.

Communities are endangered by these pens. I am sure my 80 year old mother and aunt’s hips and knees would ot allow them to get out of the way of a rabid escapee. They carry rabies and parvo virues. Can you imagine how stressed these animals are if they do get out? Pets would make a tasty little morsel, and heaven forbid a small child be approached in a schoolyard, their own yard or waiting for a bus.. I think permitting these pens was irresponsible legislation. They are banned in many states.

Fox penning encourages illegal interstate transport. September 1991 National Geographic cover shows an 18 wheeler filled with beautiful red foxes in route to SC from Ohio. It was the result of a six month undercover sting. SC does not have the manpower nor the money to regulate this activity. Of course, all the animals had to be killed to comply with interstate regulations.

Congratulation to the DNR in Florida for making the right stand! I wish SC’s DNR had the same power.

By: Keith Suzin

Keith Suzin — Tue, 04 Jan 2011 21:04:57 +0000

I am 61 years old and have hunted with dogs since I was 16 years old. I use to fox hunt free range 3-4 days a week. Over the years land got developed and the ability to run dogs after fox without crossing highways or running thru subdivisions became next to impossible. That is why fox pens were created, so we could run our dogs without disturbing the non hunters. The sport of running dogs has been made more and more difficult as more and more people that were not raised around it have moved to Florida. It is truely a shame.
I’m sure most people do not even know how fox hunting actually is done. First of all fox hunting is not acurate. It should be fox running, because the fox is not killed. No body wants the fox killed. If the dogs caught the fox, it would not be there to run the next time you went to run your dogs. I am sure that most your people that appose the fox pens do not realize these pens are usually about 200 ac’s. This is a case of ignorant people stopping things they know nothing about.

By: Allan Innes

Allan Innes — Mon, 18 Oct 2010 05:02:22 +0000

How is it okay, outside of an immediate threat to one’s own life, to murder any creature with sentience (any creature capable of suffering… of feeling pain and emotion)?

Alternatives exist to killing animals. They are practical alternatives.

If, in fact, might does make right – if this is truly the law that we have agreed to as human beings – let me know; I’ll defend these foxes and coyotes in person.

By: Catfish

Catfish — Sat, 04 Sep 2010 02:19:59 +0000

I think miss hillary hsus broke rule number “7″ Mr. webmaster! Now as an equal gesture for the hunters. I think the FWC should work for people they represent and move to have all the Dog Parks closed in Florida as they are places- where dogs with bad behavior
can attack other dogs with people being scratched or bitten trying to control their canine companion (Investigation Time!), unique strains of Rabies can be contacted, unique forms of parvo and distemper are there. It is also worth noting that wildlife bird droppings can promote diseases. BUT Let’s Get REAL! FWC you have just taken away another freedom to train and exercise our dogs. These hypocritic antagonisers are not through with YOU! What’s next? The outlawing of Hav-A-Hart Traps! You Bet! Do your research on these melting pot (peta-alf-elf-hsus) organizations that are robbing us of our rights and freedoms. So many people are mislead by their propaganda-the hunters in these pens with their dogs don’t want a kill at all. It is all about the spending of quality time with their friends, family, and most importantly their dogs. And now you have intervened where you shouldn’t have. What- A -Travesty ! It is time for people with good common sense to stand up say ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!!

By: Robb D Blind

Robb D Blind — Sat, 04 Sep 2010 02:13:55 +0000

Well said REF. I am a 30 year hunter and I have never seen a fox or coyote killed by a hound. It is a sad state when the attitude in our country is save the animals kill the babies. And a lot of the so called animal lovers, you will see them in the drive through at KFC. They think killing animals is O.K, if it soots their needs and someone else will do the dirty work for them. They would never kill a poor animal, but if you kill it and grill it they will eat. So lets break out the BBQ sauce so we all can get along.

By: interested reader

interested reader — Fri, 03 Sep 2010 18:30:41 +0000

Re: Barrineau – I’m not entirely clear on this,,, This pen has been closed for years and Tallahasse notified but someone somewhere never got the message. Let’s all just put it to rest and watch the people up here kill deer out of season. It’s time.

By: REF

REF — Fri, 03 Sep 2010 15:44:45 +0000

this is an outrage for a bunch of people that have never been inside a fox pen or even hunted in their life to cause such problems for landowners an people that enjoy the sport yes i said sport for you that dont know an just assume……Ive hunted all my life an most of was dog hunting with my dad. These pens where permitted by the state an visited often by FWC…The part that was left off about the pens is that there are escape routes an protections for the animals inside the pens so the dogs cant reach them nice of them to just conveniently leave that part out. The animals are not run seven days a week an its just a few nights a week by a limit of dogs figured by the state according to acreage of the pen..In the 30+ years ive dog hunted ive seen no fox or coyote in a fox pen or open land hunted to kill its for the chase an to hear your dogs run, an to get them in shape. This comission is a joke an the whole panel needs to be voted out so next time you cast your vote do some research find out where they come from an what they actually support not what they advertise i know its tough to sort out the bunch of liars but something we need to do…..An for the bunch of tree huggers if your so opposed to this buy the land from the fox pen owners an then you can take care of your precious little nuisance animals an when they show up in your neighborhoods eating your precious lil dogs or cats then maybe it will open your eyes…wake up florida protect your hunting an fishing rights against these worthless people…….

By: Michelle

Michelle — Fri, 03 Sep 2010 14:46:34 +0000

On the upside, you won’t have to jump through Federal hoops anymore, and you won’t have to pay them any extra taxes for tryin to run a business. It’s a good job these so called expert have decided that Florida can afford to put another business under and more people on the unemployment list. They don’t need taxpayers money to fund their frivilous lifestyles. Well done genius!! (yes, that was sarcasm)

Have you thought maybe opening up as a non-profit wildlife sanctuary where we can drive around and look at your wildlife? And learn more about local wildlife?

By: jazzer

jazzer — Fri, 03 Sep 2010 13:41:02 +0000

Just stop buying hunting permits and let the fwc get the money we spend from the tree huggers.By the way stop pushing thos cows in a pen and blowing thier brains out.