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	<title>Comments on: Escambia, Alabama Schools Fail To Make Adequate Yearly Progress</title>
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		<title>By: tab</title>
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		<dc:creator>tab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2010 14:50:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>just wanted to respond to&quot; tireds &quot; comment first of all i am glad you make a point to report on atmores news because thats where im from and i read your site every day so do alot of other residents,we are grateful that you take the time to report on our town also i see no problem with how you word the head line it was not misleading in any way . I do not see where it implied all esc al schools did not AYP.Most parents that have children enrolled in these schools like to know where their schools stand and would love improvments its not a sceret that esc ala schools need improvments in alot of matters. and yes i have children that attends them,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just wanted to respond to&#8221; tireds &#8221; comment first of all i am glad you make a point to report on atmores news because thats where im from and i read your site every day so do alot of other residents,we are grateful that you take the time to report on our town also i see no problem with how you word the head line it was not misleading in any way . I do not see where it implied all esc al schools did not AYP.Most parents that have children enrolled in these schools like to know where their schools stand and would love improvments its not a sceret that esc ala schools need improvments in alot of matters. and yes i have children that attends them,</p>
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		<title>By: David Huie Green</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Huie Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Aug 2010 20:53:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>REGARDING:
&quot; I get to see exactly how many people read what story. It allows me to make informed decisions on what type stories to run from where.&quot;

Plus you can have a link which gives more detail if desired but doesn&#039;t get in the way of the story if folks only want the gist. Others might have to say, &quot;well, I have five stories which would interest some but only have enough money from advertising to run two of them.&quot; Not that you just throw them out but you aren&#039;t as constrained as a more woodish/paperish medium would be.

And this way you get to hear from more people wondering why you ran THAT article when THEY didn&#039;t want to read it. It must be fun.

David way off topic</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>REGARDING:<br />
&#8221; I get to see exactly how many people read what story. It allows me to make informed decisions on what type stories to run from where.&#8221;</p>
<p>Plus you can have a link which gives more detail if desired but doesn&#8217;t get in the way of the story if folks only want the gist. Others might have to say, &#8220;well, I have five stories which would interest some but only have enough money from advertising to run two of them.&#8221; Not that you just throw them out but you aren&#8217;t as constrained as a more woodish/paperish medium would be.</p>
<p>And this way you get to hear from more people wondering why you ran THAT article when THEY didn&#8217;t want to read it. It must be fun.</p>
<p>David way off topic</p>
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		<title>By: William</title>
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		<dc:creator>William</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Aug 2010 11:59:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;You lead a hard life, William. Folks gripe at you when you report on events in Warrington and when you report on events in Alabama. They’re probably mad at you if you mention hurricanes and oil slicks before they hit us.

It&#039;s all an interesting game of numbers, really.  Unlike a printed newspaper where the editor must decide if people want to read about Mrs. Rosemary&#039;s giant tomato, I get to see exactly how many people read what story. It allows me to make informed decisions on what type stories to run from where.

So I know how many people read this story about Alabama schools. Did I make the right decision to run it? Yep. It was a popular story.

Was a murder in Warrington a good story to run? Again, yes. It was widely read.  Sometimes we in North Escambia forget that we live in the same county as the rest of the folks in Escambia. Does a murder in our county in Warrington have an impact on us? Yes, it does. 

When at budget time the sheriff loses deputies and transfers half of the ones that work in Molino or Walnut Hill to the southern half of the county, perhaps we would understand why if we knew people were being murdered there, but not in Molino or Walnut Hill.

It&#039;s all that bigger picture thing. Sometimes you just have to look just outside of your bubble to see what&#039;s about to pop it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>>You lead a hard life, William. Folks gripe at you when you report on events in Warrington and when you report on events in Alabama. They’re probably mad at you if you mention hurricanes and oil slicks before they hit us.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s all an interesting game of numbers, really.  Unlike a printed newspaper where the editor must decide if people want to read about Mrs. Rosemary&#8217;s giant tomato, I get to see exactly how many people read what story. It allows me to make informed decisions on what type stories to run from where.</p>
<p>So I know how many people read this story about Alabama schools. Did I make the right decision to run it? Yep. It was a popular story.</p>
<p>Was a murder in Warrington a good story to run? Again, yes. It was widely read.  Sometimes we in North Escambia forget that we live in the same county as the rest of the folks in Escambia. Does a murder in our county in Warrington have an impact on us? Yes, it does. </p>
<p>When at budget time the sheriff loses deputies and transfers half of the ones that work in Molino or Walnut Hill to the southern half of the county, perhaps we would understand why if we knew people were being murdered there, but not in Molino or Walnut Hill.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s all that bigger picture thing. Sometimes you just have to look just outside of your bubble to see what&#8217;s about to pop it.</p>
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		<title>By: David Huie Green</title>
		<link>http://www.northescambia.com/2010/08/escambia-alabama-schools-fail-to-make-adequate-yearly-progress/comment-page-1#comment-49485</link>
		<dc:creator>David Huie Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Aug 2010 06:38:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You lead a hard life, William. Folks gripe at you when you report on events in Warrington and when you report on events in Alabama. They’re probably mad at you if you mention hurricanes and oil slicks before they hit us.

The way I see it, knowing how well others are doing might affect our actions; we might make informed decisions. 

If there are lots of killings or other crimes in other places, we might want to know so we could safely stay around Century to avoid them. If schools in other places were having problems or doing VERY well, it might affect our decisions regarding moving there or staying here.

And then there&#039;s the &quot;Maybe all our kids can&#039;t add or think even as well as your kids, but at least our taxes are lower,&quot; crowd to deal with.

Most importantly, if we know there are problems, we can decide to hide from them or address them. You decided to mention them at least.

David for perfecting NCLB
and everything else 
other than me</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You lead a hard life, William. Folks gripe at you when you report on events in Warrington and when you report on events in Alabama. They’re probably mad at you if you mention hurricanes and oil slicks before they hit us.</p>
<p>The way I see it, knowing how well others are doing might affect our actions; we might make informed decisions. </p>
<p>If there are lots of killings or other crimes in other places, we might want to know so we could safely stay around Century to avoid them. If schools in other places were having problems or doing VERY well, it might affect our decisions regarding moving there or staying here.</p>
<p>And then there&#8217;s the &#8220;Maybe all our kids can&#8217;t add or think even as well as your kids, but at least our taxes are lower,&#8221; crowd to deal with.</p>
<p>Most importantly, if we know there are problems, we can decide to hide from them or address them. You decided to mention them at least.</p>
<p>David for perfecting NCLB<br />
and everything else<br />
other than me</p>
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		<title>By: David Huie Green</title>
		<link>http://www.northescambia.com/2010/08/escambia-alabama-schools-fail-to-make-adequate-yearly-progress/comment-page-1#comment-49484</link>
		<dc:creator>David Huie Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Aug 2010 06:14:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>a big part was no students, or at least not enough to satisfy the powers that be. When the majority of the people served have already abandoned a school, it&#039;s reasonable to shut it down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a big part was no students, or at least not enough to satisfy the powers that be. When the majority of the people served have already abandoned a school, it&#8217;s reasonable to shut it down.</p>
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		<title>By: Concerned Century Citizen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Concerned Century Citizen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2010 19:50:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Parents Please, Please, Please!!! Become more involved in your child&#039;s school.  Look at what happened in Century.  No SCHOOL!!!!!  Politics played a big part there also, but parents please get involved in your child&#039;s sschool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Parents Please, Please, Please!!! Become more involved in your child&#8217;s school.  Look at what happened in Century.  No SCHOOL!!!!!  Politics played a big part there also, but parents please get involved in your child&#8217;s sschool.</p>
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		<title>By: observer....</title>
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		<dc:creator>observer....</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2010 13:30:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree 100% with what the Mom said. That is a fact, if parents aren&#039;t involved with their children and their school work (&amp; homework) it makes it that much harder for that student. They figure if my parents don&#039;t care then why should I. Parents need to be involved and know whats going on with their child at school and with their grades and progress at school, thats just a fact and I guess some don&#039;t want to hear it. Be involved and you &quot;will&quot; see a difference in that child.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree 100% with what the Mom said. That is a fact, if parents aren&#8217;t involved with their children and their school work (&amp; homework) it makes it that much harder for that student. They figure if my parents don&#8217;t care then why should I. Parents need to be involved and know whats going on with their child at school and with their grades and progress at school, thats just a fact and I guess some don&#8217;t want to hear it. Be involved and you &#8220;will&#8221; see a difference in that child.</p>
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		<title>By: Oversight</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oversight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2010 10:40:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For &quot;tired&#039;s&quot;...&quot;Not to seem trite, but I find this information to be less than your business or the business of anyone who lives in Florida.&quot;

Many in Florida who have interests in the public schools do care about the quality education or lack there of in Alabama because there will be flight from those failing schools to better schools in Florida.  With that said, I&#039;m afraid that once the FCAT results are fully published none of the Escambia County Florida schools or very few will make AYP and most school letter grades will decline.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For &#8220;tired&#8217;s&#8221;&#8230;&#8221;Not to seem trite, but I find this information to be less than your business or the business of anyone who lives in Florida.&#8221;</p>
<p>Many in Florida who have interests in the public schools do care about the quality education or lack there of in Alabama because there will be flight from those failing schools to better schools in Florida.  With that said, I&#8217;m afraid that once the FCAT results are fully published none of the Escambia County Florida schools or very few will make AYP and most school letter grades will decline.</p>
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		<title>By: local teacher</title>
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		<dc:creator>local teacher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Aug 2010 23:03:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who could object to the premise of NCLB, that children will master the basic skills of reading and mathematics?  However, NCLB as any educator will tell you is flawed.  The greatest flaw lies within the legislative command that all students in every school must be proficient in reading and mathematics by 2014.  This includes students with special needs, students whose native language is not English, students who are homeless and lacking in any societal advantage, and students who have every societal advantage but are not interested in their schoolwork.  If all students are not proficient by 2014, their schools, teachers, administrators and staff will suffer the consequences.  

One of the unintended consequences of NCLB is the shrinkage of time available to teach anything other than reading and math since these two subjects are the basis for AYP for all states.  Test scores have become an obsession, with school districts investing heavily in test-prep materials and activities.  Test taking skills and strategies have taken precedence over knowledge.  

The above information was taken from the book &quot;The Death and Life of the Great American School System:  How Testing and Choice Are Undermining Education.&quot;  This book was written by Diane Ravitch, historian of NCLB, who was initially a supporter of NCLB.

Every parent should look into just how much of each school year is spent on test prep.  Many school districts have a testing &#039;window&#039; of 1-2 weeks each year.  This does not include months spent practicing, which often times begins immediately after Christmas, at the latest, and continues until testing.  

We all know that our children are not all &#039;equal&#039; when it comes to their ability to learn.  Obviously it is grossly unfair to expect that all children will become proficient in reading or math at the same rate as other children.  

NCLB assumed that shaming schools that are unable to lift test scores every  year - the people who work in them - the students who attend them - and the parents who support them - would lead to higher scores.  It was assumed that low scores are caused by lazy teachers.  Higher test scores on standardized tests of basic skills they believe are synonymous with good education.  They are wrong!

We must expect more from our children&#039;s education than being able to read write and numerate. They need to learn to: think for themselves, make informed decisions, learn science and mathematics so they can understand the problems we face (oil in the gulf) and participate in finding solutions, understand our nation and world and the challenges we face economically and politically and much more.  If all we do is teach them how to take a test, we will soon realize our children will not be successful beyond simply taking a test.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who could object to the premise of NCLB, that children will master the basic skills of reading and mathematics?  However, NCLB as any educator will tell you is flawed.  The greatest flaw lies within the legislative command that all students in every school must be proficient in reading and mathematics by 2014.  This includes students with special needs, students whose native language is not English, students who are homeless and lacking in any societal advantage, and students who have every societal advantage but are not interested in their schoolwork.  If all students are not proficient by 2014, their schools, teachers, administrators and staff will suffer the consequences.  </p>
<p>One of the unintended consequences of NCLB is the shrinkage of time available to teach anything other than reading and math since these two subjects are the basis for AYP for all states.  Test scores have become an obsession, with school districts investing heavily in test-prep materials and activities.  Test taking skills and strategies have taken precedence over knowledge.  </p>
<p>The above information was taken from the book &#8220;The Death and Life of the Great American School System:  How Testing and Choice Are Undermining Education.&#8221;  This book was written by Diane Ravitch, historian of NCLB, who was initially a supporter of NCLB.</p>
<p>Every parent should look into just how much of each school year is spent on test prep.  Many school districts have a testing &#8216;window&#8217; of 1-2 weeks each year.  This does not include months spent practicing, which often times begins immediately after Christmas, at the latest, and continues until testing.  </p>
<p>We all know that our children are not all &#8216;equal&#8217; when it comes to their ability to learn.  Obviously it is grossly unfair to expect that all children will become proficient in reading or math at the same rate as other children.  </p>
<p>NCLB assumed that shaming schools that are unable to lift test scores every  year &#8211; the people who work in them &#8211; the students who attend them &#8211; and the parents who support them &#8211; would lead to higher scores.  It was assumed that low scores are caused by lazy teachers.  Higher test scores on standardized tests of basic skills they believe are synonymous with good education.  They are wrong!</p>
<p>We must expect more from our children&#8217;s education than being able to read write and numerate. They need to learn to: think for themselves, make informed decisions, learn science and mathematics so they can understand the problems we face (oil in the gulf) and participate in finding solutions, understand our nation and world and the challenges we face economically and politically and much more.  If all we do is teach them how to take a test, we will soon realize our children will not be successful beyond simply taking a test.</p>
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		<title>By: Step</title>
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		<dc:creator>Step</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Aug 2010 20:51:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would be nice if you could ban certain people from viewing your site - Especially those that only want to gripe and do not appreciate the work that is involved.  

Thanks for incuding this story- most of us from Alabama appreciate seeing stories related to Atmore and other portions of Escambia AL.

Thanks William!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would be nice if you could ban certain people from viewing your site &#8211; Especially those that only want to gripe and do not appreciate the work that is involved.  </p>
<p>Thanks for incuding this story- most of us from Alabama appreciate seeing stories related to Atmore and other portions of Escambia AL.</p>
<p>Thanks William!</p>
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