Maybe it took him that long to decide he might be impaired.

AND

“First off, Justin didn’t take a breathalyzer so you don’t know if he was drunk or not,”

Please consider: “After failing a field sobriety test, Franklin was placed under arrest and transported to the Escambia County Jail where he refused a blood alcohol test,”

So we know the one thing which would have proven him to be sober if he actually was, is the one thing he refused to submit to, even though he consented to such tests when he was issued his driver’s license. Look at the bottom line of your drivers license. “Operation of a motor vehicle constitutes consent to any sobriety test required by law.”

Of course he doesn’t actually have to do it, he just had to promise to do it to get a license. His Constitutionally protected right not to incriminate himself means he doesn’t have to actually let science into the picture. If I were guilty, I wouldn’t allow a test which proved my guilt.

Since he perjured himself with that promise, I wonder if they can do more than simply refuse to restore his license. (Not that it matters, he’s probably driving down the road right now as you read this.)

Of course, we aren’t a court of law, so we can assume the worst in this case, just as if we were a court of law we would have to assume the best.

Please further note there was a field sobriety test administered which he is reported to have failed. With any luck there is also videotape which would show his demeanor to a jury and clear things up quickly.

David for safe roads, safe children

And you aren’t defining and labeling according to your own perception of reality?

You call people idiots for not agreeing with you.
That’s a label.

You called my pastor mentally retarded, quite possibly even without meeting him.
That’s a label.

And you decided I had decided on church-worthiness when I did no such thing. I even pointed out there’s a church for every kind of person. I made it clear not everybody would fit in all of them. You might not enjoy mine, since you are prejudiced against us Baptists, but I’m sure there’s plenty where you would fit right in.

Besides, the Pharisees weren’t all that bad, just too stuck on themselves. HEY! There’s a possibility for you . . .

Has your pastor ever told you you’re an idiot? Probably not as you seem to be cut from the same mentally retarded cloth.

Thanks for the long explanation about people’s church worthiness David, it’s comforting to know that there are people in this world who can define and label just about anyone according to their own narrow perception of reality.

You’re WORSE than the Pharisees. You’re a BAPTIST!

Remember Jesus told his followers to listen to the scribes and Pharisees and do what they said but not what they did. (Matthew 23:1-3 I think) People were the same back then as they are now.

There’s all kinds of churches and other religious organizations with all kinds of teachings. Some accept drinking as part of life. Some don’t. Some don’t care what you do as long as you confess each week; I bet those are entertaining.

Not everybody who goes to church is a member of that church, has not committed to following the teachings–whatever they are–of that church. I’m sure we all love them dearly but there are a few who only come twice a year and are proud of themselves for their heavy sacrifice. They don’t even know what the churches believe–or profess to believe. They just think they shold be there every now and then.

Some only come for the worship service and have preachers who think their job is to entertain so they never get any real teaching when they go.

Of the ones who have joined or been accepted into membership, some were liars and did not intend to do what they said. Others meant well but were overwhelmed by assorted temptations. It’s kind of sad when you see the ones who thought joining would make them perfect and then they found they were still themselves afterward. Remember the saying CHRISTIANS AREN’T PERFECT, JUST FORGIVEN. Also remember the term is a loose one with many different meanings to many different folks.

You’ll notice some folks think churches are places to entertain children, not places for adults. I doubt they’d get much benefit from going. Their parents’ attitude is one of “God is for children, not big boys.” When I grow up, I’ll put Him aside with the tooth fairy. They figure putting it all aside is a sign of growing maturity.

A whole lot of people go to church to see their boyfriend or girlfriend. They usually sit near the back and whisper, plan, talk and text through the sermons. More than one child was conceived on church grounds. not the church’s fault, just a handy place to do what they intended to do somewhere. (Much like the joke about the naive father who knew his daughter was a good girl because she brought home a new Gideon Bible after every date. If you don’t know where Gideons place Bibles, you won’t get the joke.)

Some folks go to church to sing or listen to others sing. I’ve seen people go because they could play the piano, quit when they couldn’t. Nothing wrong with that, but don’t expect much more out of them. Some go just because attendance is a requirement to play ball or bowl. (Pray to play)

The whole concept that churches are places for recreation would be right if it meant re-creation, creation of a better person, not just a place to play. A church which exists solely for entertaining children either has lost its purpose or never had it in the first place. I know of at least one church which was formed because the preacher wanted his own church, and it belonged to him. God was never allowed inside. That’s fine, Satan’s folks need places to congregate too and some of the bars are too crowded or are closed on Sunday.

Some folks even go to church to make drug deals. It isn’t even anything new, they report that during the Great Revivals of the 1800s, when folks came from miles around and many preachers were preaching nonstop, there were wagons of moonshine to be found, served by lovely ladies who offered other favors for a reasonable fee.

Remember if you ever find a perfect church, you won’t fit in but you may find one you like or can even grow in. Most people find what they are looking for.

It’s up to you.

David of Grace Baptist

“Speaking of that…why isn’t there a bowling alley or skating rink for kids in this area?”

There is plenty of things for kids to do at your local church. I’m sure that any church around where you live would welcome any new attendees(parents included)

It all starts at home with how much time you spend with your kids and being there to show a good example. It doesn’t guarantee that they won’t get in trouble but it sure gives them a lot better start.

heed it !