Comments on: Prayer Bill Praised By Free Speech Advocates

By: Thinker

Thinker — Tue, 25 May 2010 15:29:32 +0000

Thanks, John.

Y’all note that religious people here will simply repeat what we’ve all heard many times from them. It’s the spouting of propaganda, after all. That’s because they’ve been indoctrinated, programmed, brainwashed, whatever you prefer, in their belief system. (Fear of Hell, promise of Heaven). They cannot see reality any more. They ignore facts and fail to engage skeptics, saying only…in time you will meet your judgment and other such junk. I too was indoctrinated by a Christian Science oriented mother and church exposure. But dad called himself an atheist and had “escaped” from the Catholic church. It hurts to overcome religious indoctrination, reinforced every Sunday, but it is NECESSARY to achieve happiness and be other than a hypocrite. If you have a computer, you can find all kinds of good counter propaganda to put you in a more moderate place where reason can operate within you. In my day, I only had books by authors like: Ayn Rand, Kurt Vonnegut, Philip Wylie, Robert Heinlein and others. More recently, Sam Harris and other “militant atheists” have been popular among people fighting this delusion called religious dogma, and trying think free and clear.

By: David Huie Green

David Huie Green — Sun, 23 May 2010 20:45:51 +0000

REGARDING:
“Religion has been in our Schools since this Country was founded.”

Our schools weren’t in our schools when the country was founded.

What? There weren’t a bunch of public schools throughout the nation at the time. It wasn’t felt to be the duty of the government to educate the children, partly out of fear of government indoctrinating the children the wrong way.

Sure glad THAT turned out not to be the case.

David for freedom by a hands-off approach

By: T

Sun, 23 May 2010 12:08:03 +0000

Bottom line is: I am going to pray when I feel like praying! I will pray at church, in my car, in the store,on a bus,at work, at the beach, post office, in a parking lot, in the library, in the lunchroom, in a class, at a ball game, at a concert, bathroom, hospital, PTA, NRA, ………..and really,…………… NOT one person can stop me.

By: Lonnie

Lonnie — Sat, 22 May 2010 22:56:31 +0000

Religion has been in our Schools since this Country was founded. Over the 40+ years we have slowly removed those teachings. We need to get back to One Nation Under God.

By: John Parker

John Parker — Sat, 22 May 2010 15:36:36 +0000

Thinker…I like the way you write and think. Good job!!

By: Thinker

Thinker — Sat, 22 May 2010 12:53:16 +0000

The free expression in school newspapers thing, is good. Christians think their message is always good and that Bible reading is the answer. Anyone who has ever read the Bible fully, knows better. Now they want free expression of religion in schools. You can’t allow freedom of speech for the non-academic, superstitious, fantasy stuff that religion promotes, without also allowing discussion and promotion of other whims of life like drug use, free sex, etc., etc. But that’s what freedom of speech is all about. Ironic isn’t it? The founding fathers saw humans as basically good, capable of rejecting bad ideas (in school newspapers, etc.). Christians see us as sinners who need a God to guide us It’s the oldest confidence game on earth because then the Christian community appoints leaders to “guide” us instead, reaping financial rewards and protection from taxation which they use to build huge church edifices while people starve, banning condoms in countries where people are dying from AIDS, and training leaders that both rape our children AND nurture us, but always keeping their “flocks” dependent, manipulated and deluded. And so it goes…

Here’s a famous quote on free speech that says it in fewer words:

“If we don’t believe in freedom of expression for people we despise, we don’t believe in it at all.” ~Noam Chomsky

By: Byrneville Resident

Byrneville Resident — Fri, 21 May 2010 19:18:42 +0000

One day, all who have rejected prayer and Jesus will come to a place where they will cry out for someone to teach them how to pray! They will cry out, but it may be too late! Death is final. No more chances to make things right. This world we live in is a complete opposite of the one I grew up in. In the 1950’s, EVERYONE honored prayer and God. We didn’t have nearly the amount of moral decay we see these days. Now, people spend great amounts of money and time to try to stop anyone from praying in whatever places they want. Look at the headlines. Don’t you think a little more prayer may have helped those who are now embedded in drugs and porn and murder?? Thank GOD that I was taught how to pray! And NO ONE will stop me from praying wherever I desire! That’s not a freedom given to me by the Constitution, it is given to me by GOD Himself!!

By: huh

huh — Fri, 21 May 2010 06:45:35 +0000

School is for school, church is for church. If you want to pray to yourself quietly you can do so all day!

I don’t come to your church and teach science , so don’t come to my school with your religion