They were amazingly tolerant, which is why I am still alive today. Actually, there were a few little incidents which got me intimate with Daddy’s belt, but FEW and none for back-talk. I never doubted they loved me and never thought whippings were done out of anger or revenge.

Mama’s relatives were scared of Daddy’s insistence that nobody whip us but him and HE decided if it were justified. They tended to give little half-whippings at the drop of a hat, not justified and not hard enough to do any good if they were justified.

Mr. Shoemake at Byrneville gave me a whipping over a misunderstanding. I was innocent but didn’t figure he could understand the distinction, so I just took the whipping rather than try to explain the difference between calling someone something and asking why he talked like that something.

Mr. Powers back at Century High gave me a whipping for knocking an older student into his office. He deserved it and I figured the whipping was worth it. He never knocked a book out of my hand again. Peace with honor.

Our educated friend sees people who are whipped often do bad things. Educated thinks the whipping caused the bad things. I suspect the bad things led to the whippings.

Our educated friend sees people with lower IQs getting more whippings than those with higher IQs. Educated seems to think the whippings lowered the IQs. I suspect the lower IQs resulted in them not learning as well.

Every study I’ve seen indicates IQs are fairly inflexible. If not, just think how smart I WOULD have been without those three whippings (well maybe more but I can only remember clearly back to when I was four).

Raw numbers are open to interpretation. Consider the sentence: “So rather than relying on the old “that’s how we did it back in the day” logic, do a little research and make an educated decision.”

The questions come up:
Did the old system never work?
Did it usually work?
Will some other system work as well or better?
Does the new system work without doctoral level skills? You
know the type, “Well of course it blew up, you mixed it
wrong.” When failure is a danger, be careful about
changing methods.

One thing is certain, though: Those who can’t tell the difference between spanking and beating should refrain from either and should think long and hard before having any children or being around them. They’ll just screw it up.

David for happy, healthy children without criminal records

Educated, did your parents spank you? Just a question as you are stating statistics, a curiousity builds as to the person you are, a very educated person, not a bad person, were you spanked as a child?

David, you know what I am talking about, as I am sure your parents, as I knew them also, didn’t take any back mouthing from any of you boys, did they?

I am proud to be a whooped child of the 60’s and 70’s, where if you did something wrong, you got your behind smacked and you wouldn’t do it again! I am now in my 40’s, yes I am telling my age, and I turned out to be a pretty educated person, not a felon, never been arrested nor have I ever beaten on a 66 year old person.

All whom blame the parents, some are correct, the parents need to teach their children the correct way to do things. But as the saying goes, you can teach your children the correct way (show them the right path) but you can not make them take it.

Have a nice day everyone.

Consider the fact that you quit using a shovel when the hole is dug, continue to use it while digging.

It could be that these didn’t respond as well as others for whom it was no longer needed.

David considering whether links are causal or not

Another study I read looked at corporal punishment practices in 32 countries by surveying 17,404 university students. The analysis found a lower average IQ in nations in which spanking was more prevalent. The strongest link between corporal punishment and IQ was for those whose parents continued to use corporal punishment even when they were teenagers. Children in the United States who were spanked had lower IQs — by 2.8 to 5 points — than those who were not spanked.

So rather than relying on the old “that’s how we did it back in the day” logic, do a little research and make an educated decision. The fact that nearly 98% of violent inmates and 95% of juvenile delinquents received moderate to severe corporal punishment as a child was enough for me to decide to choose alternate means of punishment.

I guess he was holding it in a non-threatening manner?

David not saying he should do such things,
just meditating on how to do that