Comments on: Draft Plan Calls For Large Stretch Of Highway 29 To Become Six Lanes http://www.northescambia.com/2010/04/draft-plans-calls-for-large-stretch-of-highway-29-to-become-six-lanes Local News for Molino, Bratt, McDavid, Century, Walnut Hill, Cantonment Sun, 05 Apr 2026 14:44:40 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: BrattBrat http://www.northescambia.com/2010/04/draft-plans-calls-for-large-stretch-of-highway-29-to-become-six-lanes/comment-page-1#comment-40046 BrattBrat Fri, 23 Apr 2010 20:09:59 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=16258#comment-40046 Wow ! It will be interesting to see Kevin White's response to "Mr. Whites Constituent" posting. Since it was enacted during his term! $500.00 is a drop in the bucket for CSX, but if the ordinance is not enforced it's not worth the paper it's written on. Molinojim took the word's right out of my mouth! Never say "they can't close this mill" The only thing left at the Mobile IP mill is the concrete foundation, memories and heartache. A major problem with Hwy 29 is the horrible drivers! Hang up the phone so you can realize you're driving 50mph in the left lane and backing up traffic for miles! We need more educated drivers! Wow ! It will be interesting to see Kevin White’s response to “Mr. Whites Constituent” posting. Since it was enacted during his term!

$500.00 is a drop in the bucket for CSX, but if the ordinance is not enforced it’s not worth the paper it’s written on.

Molinojim took the word’s right out of my mouth! Never say “they can’t close this mill” The only thing left at the Mobile IP mill is the concrete foundation, memories and heartache.

A major problem with Hwy 29 is the horrible drivers! Hang up the phone so you can realize you’re driving 50mph in the left lane and backing up traffic for miles!
We need more educated drivers!

]]> By: Gerry Dumenkoffen http://www.northescambia.com/2010/04/draft-plans-calls-for-large-stretch-of-highway-29-to-become-six-lanes/comment-page-1#comment-39953 Gerry Dumenkoffen Thu, 22 Apr 2010 17:30:26 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=16258#comment-39953 Or you could just turn 29 into a trail like the appalachian trail and when people walk on it they think they have accomplished something! Or you could just turn 29 into a trail like the appalachian trail and when people walk on it they think they have accomplished something!

]]> By: 24/7 http://www.northescambia.com/2010/04/draft-plans-calls-for-large-stretch-of-highway-29-to-become-six-lanes/comment-page-1#comment-39941 24/7 Thu, 22 Apr 2010 15:21:37 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=16258#comment-39941 6 lanes is fine, but they need to re-surface what is already there. I have had to replace three windshields in the last few months.. 6 lanes is fine, but they need to re-surface what is already there. I have had to replace three windshields in the last few months..

]]> By: Mr White's constituent http://www.northescambia.com/2010/04/draft-plans-calls-for-large-stretch-of-highway-29-to-become-six-lanes/comment-page-1#comment-39938 Mr White's constituent Thu, 22 Apr 2010 15:04:51 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=16258#comment-39938 You're very welcome and I agree. You’re very welcome and I agree.

]]> By: anydaynow http://www.northescambia.com/2010/04/draft-plans-calls-for-large-stretch-of-highway-29-to-become-six-lanes/comment-page-1#comment-39934 anydaynow Thu, 22 Apr 2010 14:47:27 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=16258#comment-39934 White's constituent-thanks for that information. A $500 fine is of no consequence to CSX and the ordinance should be amended to increase the amount of the fine so that it is high enough to be considered by CSX. White’s constituent-thanks for that information. A $500 fine is of no consequence to CSX and the ordinance should be amended to increase the amount of the fine so that it is high enough to be considered by CSX.

]]> By: molinojim http://www.northescambia.com/2010/04/draft-plans-calls-for-large-stretch-of-highway-29-to-become-six-lanes/comment-page-1#comment-39928 molinojim Thu, 22 Apr 2010 13:47:07 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=16258#comment-39928 To those that think IP will not/ can not close the plant---talk to some of the EX-IP WORKERS IN MOBILE. They closed that location and the ripple effect is still being felt several years later. To those that think IP will not/ can not close the plant—talk to some of the EX-IP WORKERS IN MOBILE. They closed that location and the ripple effect is still being felt several years later.

]]> By: bwayne http://www.northescambia.com/2010/04/draft-plans-calls-for-large-stretch-of-highway-29-to-become-six-lanes/comment-page-1#comment-39920 bwayne Thu, 22 Apr 2010 13:18:23 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=16258#comment-39920 I doubt seriously that IP will close down their mill over having to comply with ordinances. Besides, it seems to be CSX's responsibility to adhere to those ordinances. IP just renewed their permit and the cost of sterilizing the ground and clean up of the area upon closing would far outweigh the cost of staying productive. That argument of IP closing if they have to comply is getting old, and is partly why nothing will ever be done about those tracks. An over pass is the most logical remedy to this problem. The businesses along that stretch could still have access roads, but if they widen to 6 lanes, those businesses will be losing ground to the expansion, and the 29 artery will still be clogged with the train blocking the flow of traffic no matter how many lanes they put in. I doubt seriously that IP will close down their mill over having to comply with ordinances. Besides, it seems to be CSX’s responsibility to adhere to those ordinances. IP just renewed their permit and the cost of sterilizing the ground and clean up of the area upon closing would far outweigh the cost of staying productive.
That argument of IP closing if they have to comply is getting old, and is partly why nothing will ever be done about those tracks.
An over pass is the most logical remedy to this problem. The businesses along that stretch could still have access roads, but if they widen to 6 lanes, those businesses will be losing ground to the expansion, and the 29 artery will still be clogged with the train blocking the flow of traffic no matter how many lanes they put in.

]]> By: Mr White's constituent http://www.northescambia.com/2010/04/draft-plans-calls-for-large-stretch-of-highway-29-to-become-six-lanes/comment-page-1#comment-39914 Mr White's constituent Thu, 22 Apr 2010 12:47:45 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=16258#comment-39914 Mr White, There is an Escambia County ordinance that DOES govern the railroad. If you will read, you will see that the following ordinance IS enforceable and only allows CSX to block the intersection for 10 minutes out of a 15 minute period. Do your research, sir, before deciding whether you do or do not have jurisdiction. I have also checked the federal law and it states that COUNTY laws override federal rules when it comes to this matter. I've done your research for you this time. In the future, if you enjoy your position, I would suggest doing it yourself. It would greatly increase your chance of reelection. CODE OF ORDINANCES ESCAMBIA COUNTY, FLORIDA Codified through Ord. No. 2009-1, enacted Jan. 22, 2009. (Supplement No. 35) ARTICLE IV. RAILROADS Sec. 94-161. Trains prohibited from obstructing roadways; exceptions; penalties. (a) Except in cases of emergency, no railroad locomotive car, train or other vehicle shall be operated so as to close or obstruct a street or crossing in the county for a longer time than ten minutes within a period of 15 minutes. This section shall not apply to trains in continuous motion but shall apply to trains or cars engaged in switching or engaged in loading or unloading. (b) An emergency includes, but is not limited to, the following: a railroad accident or collision; a locomotive or rail-car mechanical failure; a track-switching or signal system failure; or blocking of the tracks themselves that is not due to or caused by any railroad company operations, or that is otherwise beyond the railroad company's control. An emergency does not include events such as delays in scheduling, delays in arrivals, delays in delivery, or any other delay that is not product of an unforeseen mechanical-breakdown in the rail cars' operation or passage between termini. (c) Violation of this section by the owner or person in charge of a railroad train or car shall result in the owner of the train being penalized by a fine not to exceed $500.00, or by imprisonment in the county jail for not more than 60 days, or both. (Code 1985, § 1-27-2) Mr White,
There is an Escambia County ordinance that DOES govern the railroad. If you will read, you will see that the following ordinance IS enforceable and only allows CSX to block the intersection for 10 minutes out of a 15 minute period. Do your research, sir, before deciding whether you do or do not have jurisdiction. I have also checked the federal law and it states that COUNTY laws override federal rules when it comes to this matter. I’ve done your research for you this time. In the future, if you enjoy your position, I would suggest doing it yourself. It would greatly increase your chance of reelection.

CODE OF ORDINANCES
ESCAMBIA COUNTY, FLORIDA

Codified through
Ord. No. 2009-1, enacted Jan. 22, 2009.
(Supplement No. 35)

ARTICLE IV. RAILROADS

Sec. 94-161. Trains prohibited from obstructing roadways; exceptions; penalties.

(a) Except in cases of emergency, no railroad locomotive car, train or other vehicle shall be operated so as to close or obstruct a street or crossing in the county for a longer time than ten minutes within a period of 15 minutes. This section shall not apply to trains in continuous motion but shall apply to trains or cars engaged in switching or engaged in loading or unloading.
(b) An emergency includes, but is not limited to, the following: a railroad accident or collision; a locomotive or rail-car mechanical failure; a track-switching or signal system failure; or blocking of the tracks themselves that is not due to or caused by any railroad company operations, or that is otherwise beyond the railroad company’s control. An emergency does not include events such as delays in scheduling, delays in arrivals, delays in delivery, or any other delay that is not product of an unforeseen mechanical-breakdown in the rail cars’ operation or passage between termini.
(c) Violation of this section by the owner or person in charge of a railroad train or car shall result in the owner of the train being penalized by a fine not to exceed $500.00, or by imprisonment in the county jail for not more than 60 days, or both.
(Code 1985, § 1-27-2)

]]> By: Kevin White http://www.northescambia.com/2010/04/draft-plans-calls-for-large-stretch-of-highway-29-to-become-six-lanes/comment-page-1#comment-39884 Kevin White Thu, 22 Apr 2010 01:55:05 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=16258#comment-39884 In response to uv got to be kidding me go to the supervisor of elections website escambia votes.com pull up my campaign report. No one from csx or any railroad gave me a contribution. The BOCC has no say over the railroad or HWY 29 since it is a state roadway and the railroad is regulated by the feds. Please be accurate with your posts and be brave put your name with it. I can easily be reached my office number is 595-4950 and my cell is 393-9264. In response to uv got to be kidding me go to the supervisor of elections website escambia votes.com pull up my campaign report. No one from csx or any railroad gave me a contribution. The BOCC has no say over the railroad or HWY 29 since it is a state roadway and the railroad is regulated by the feds. Please be accurate with your posts and be brave put your name with it. I can easily be reached my office number is 595-4950 and my cell is 393-9264.

]]> By: IP EMPLOYEE http://www.northescambia.com/2010/04/draft-plans-calls-for-large-stretch-of-highway-29-to-become-six-lanes/comment-page-1#comment-39882 IP EMPLOYEE Thu, 22 Apr 2010 01:40:20 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=16258#comment-39882 IF THEY CLOSED DOWN THE MILL YOU WANT NEED A SIX LANE HIGHWAY. BECAUSE NOT ONLY WILL THE ECONOMY CRASH AROUND CANTONMENT,ALL THE LOGGERS AND SUBCONTRACTED AND LOCAL COMPANIES THAT SERVICE THE MILL WILL ALL BE LOOKING FOR JOBS. THATS ALOT OF PEOPLE EFFECTED BY ONE TRAIN.SO I SAY PRAISE THE LORD FOR THE TRAIN AND ALL THE JOBS THE MILL AND AND TRAIN PROVIDE.YES THE TRAIN IS A HASSLE SOMETIMES BUT WHEN I SIT THERE AND SEE ALL THE TRAFFIC COMING IN AND OUT OF THE MILL AND ALL IT PROVIDES FOR THE AREA , YEA ITS WORTH A LITTLE OF MY TIME.AND IF THE TRAIN SEES A EMERGENCY VEHICLE THEY WILL CLEAR THE TRACKS ASAP FOR THAT VEHICLE I HAVE SEEN THIS PERSONALLY. AN OVERPASS WOULD HELP BUT I NOW ARE COUNTY IS NOT GOING TO DO THAT.THAT MILLS BEEN THERE A LONG TIME AND WE DONT HAVE ONE YET,SO I DONT LOOK FORWARD TO IT HAPPENING ANYTIME SOON. IF THEY CLOSED DOWN THE MILL YOU WANT NEED A SIX LANE HIGHWAY. BECAUSE NOT ONLY WILL THE ECONOMY CRASH AROUND CANTONMENT,ALL THE LOGGERS AND SUBCONTRACTED AND LOCAL COMPANIES THAT SERVICE THE MILL WILL ALL BE LOOKING FOR JOBS. THATS ALOT OF PEOPLE EFFECTED BY ONE TRAIN.SO I SAY PRAISE THE LORD FOR THE TRAIN AND ALL THE JOBS THE MILL AND AND TRAIN PROVIDE.YES THE TRAIN IS A HASSLE SOMETIMES BUT WHEN I SIT THERE AND SEE ALL THE TRAFFIC COMING IN AND OUT OF THE MILL AND ALL IT PROVIDES FOR THE AREA , YEA ITS WORTH A LITTLE OF MY TIME.AND IF THE TRAIN SEES A EMERGENCY VEHICLE THEY WILL CLEAR THE TRACKS ASAP FOR THAT VEHICLE I HAVE SEEN THIS PERSONALLY. AN OVERPASS WOULD HELP BUT I NOW ARE COUNTY IS NOT GOING TO DO THAT.THAT MILLS BEEN THERE A LONG TIME AND WE DONT HAVE ONE YET,SO I DONT LOOK FORWARD TO IT HAPPENING ANYTIME SOON.

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