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	<title>Comments on: Crist Bucks Party In Teacher Pay Veto</title>
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		<title>By: David Huie Green</title>
		<link>http://www.northescambia.com/2010/04/crist-bucks-party-in-teacher-pay-veto/comment-page-1#comment-39821</link>
		<dc:creator>David Huie Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Apr 2010 17:53:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and my point that compromise requires trust on both sides</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and my point that compromise requires trust on both sides</p>
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		<title>By: Uv Gotoo B. Kiddingme</title>
		<link>http://www.northescambia.com/2010/04/crist-bucks-party-in-teacher-pay-veto/comment-page-1#comment-39785</link>
		<dc:creator>Uv Gotoo B. Kiddingme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Apr 2010 14:53:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As long as the teachers&#039; unions are in the tank for the Democrats and the Democrats are in the pockets of the teachers&#039; unions, there will never be compromise.  Teachers and their unions were left out of SB6 discussions for that very reason.  Last year, when Escambia County Schools sent money budgeted for teacher merit pay back to Tallahassee, Jeff Burgosh was quoted as saying the union would never accept any merit pay proposal.

And he sadly was correct.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As long as the teachers&#8217; unions are in the tank for the Democrats and the Democrats are in the pockets of the teachers&#8217; unions, there will never be compromise.  Teachers and their unions were left out of SB6 discussions for that very reason.  Last year, when Escambia County Schools sent money budgeted for teacher merit pay back to Tallahassee, Jeff Burgosh was quoted as saying the union would never accept any merit pay proposal.</p>
<p>And he sadly was correct.</p>
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		<title>By: Dixie Chick</title>
		<link>http://www.northescambia.com/2010/04/crist-bucks-party-in-teacher-pay-veto/comment-page-1#comment-39711</link>
		<dc:creator>Dixie Chick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Apr 2010 05:27:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The point i was making is if both sides will compromise then everyone especially the children will benefit.  I realize that will never happen in Florida and it is a waste of time saying it because people want it their way or the highway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The point i was making is if both sides will compromise then everyone especially the children will benefit.  I realize that will never happen in Florida and it is a waste of time saying it because people want it their way or the highway.</p>
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		<title>By: Uv Gotoo B. Kiddingme</title>
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		<dc:creator>Uv Gotoo B. Kiddingme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2010 21:37:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Maybe Florida needs to take a look at what the city of Washington D C just passed. They did a very strange thing unknown to many called a compromise and both sides got something they wanted.&quot;...Dixie Chick

Ok.  Let&#039;s look at Washington D.C.&#039;s school system.  They have ranked number 51 out of 51 for 17 straight years.  That is the first year they were counted as separate from Maryland and the number went up to 51.  They have the highest dollars per student spent.  Rank among the top in teacher salaries, but are dead last in education levels every year.  Gee, maybe Florida does indeed need to look at what D.C. does!!!!!
BTW, Florida was ranked 48th (behind Georgia, Mississippi, and of course D.C.) prior to Jeb&#039;s A+ accountability measures which include FCAT.  Now we are 27th.  Of course the same teachers that opposed SB6 will tell you FCAT needs to go to.  Get it??????  What could be easier to understand?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Maybe Florida needs to take a look at what the city of Washington D C just passed. They did a very strange thing unknown to many called a compromise and both sides got something they wanted.&#8221;&#8230;Dixie Chick</p>
<p>Ok.  Let&#8217;s look at Washington D.C.&#8217;s school system.  They have ranked number 51 out of 51 for 17 straight years.  That is the first year they were counted as separate from Maryland and the number went up to 51.  They have the highest dollars per student spent.  Rank among the top in teacher salaries, but are dead last in education levels every year.  Gee, maybe Florida does indeed need to look at what D.C. does!!!!!<br />
BTW, Florida was ranked 48th (behind Georgia, Mississippi, and of course D.C.) prior to Jeb&#8217;s A+ accountability measures which include FCAT.  Now we are 27th.  Of course the same teachers that opposed SB6 will tell you FCAT needs to go to.  Get it??????  What could be easier to understand?</p>
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		<title>By: David Huie Green</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Huie Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2010 03:46:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I noticed DC got rid of some 200 teachers based on budget shortfall, then somebody else claimed they had a 65 million dollar surplus. 

I don&#039;t keep up with such things but noticed them based on your citation of them as an example of good work.  

I doubt cooperation will continue if they lie to or distrust each other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I noticed DC got rid of some 200 teachers based on budget shortfall, then somebody else claimed they had a 65 million dollar surplus. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t keep up with such things but noticed them based on your citation of them as an example of good work.  </p>
<p>I doubt cooperation will continue if they lie to or distrust each other.</p>
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		<title>By: Dixie Chick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dixie Chick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Apr 2010 04:26:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe Florida needs to take a look at  what the city of Washington D C just passed.  They  did a very strange thing unknown to many called a compromise and both sides got something they wanted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe Florida needs to take a look at  what the city of Washington D C just passed.  They  did a very strange thing unknown to many called a compromise and both sides got something they wanted.</p>
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		<title>By: David Huie Green</title>
		<link>http://www.northescambia.com/2010/04/crist-bucks-party-in-teacher-pay-veto/comment-page-1#comment-39446</link>
		<dc:creator>David Huie Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Apr 2010 02:54:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure they haven&#039;t already done so.

It seems some think tenure means those who have it can not be removed for any reason rather than the simple concept they can&#039;t be fired capriciously.

They oppose what is not real because somebody else told them it was the other way.

That&#039;s why it is sometimes helpful to check on claims to see if they are true.

David thinking &quot;I heard&quot; is not the same as &quot;I saw&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure they haven&#8217;t already done so.</p>
<p>It seems some think tenure means those who have it can not be removed for any reason rather than the simple concept they can&#8217;t be fired capriciously.</p>
<p>They oppose what is not real because somebody else told them it was the other way.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s why it is sometimes helpful to check on claims to see if they are true.</p>
<p>David thinking &#8220;I heard&#8221; is not the same as &#8220;I saw&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: JUDY MASEK</title>
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		<dc:creator>JUDY MASEK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Apr 2010 15:41:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to tenure or not...sounds very black and white...why cant someone (who really understands the system)  think &quot;out of the box&quot; and come up w/a reasonable compromise, whereby the important interest on each side (students/teachers) have their needs generally met.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to tenure or not&#8230;sounds very black and white&#8230;why cant someone (who really understands the system)  think &#8220;out of the box&#8221; and come up w/a reasonable compromise, whereby the important interest on each side (students/teachers) have their needs generally met.</p>
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		<title>By: David Huie Green</title>
		<link>http://www.northescambia.com/2010/04/crist-bucks-party-in-teacher-pay-veto/comment-page-1#comment-39369</link>
		<dc:creator>David Huie Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Apr 2010 20:55:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>REGARDING:
&quot;As for Republicans being for smaller and less government, after passing SB6, anyone else got a better joke to tell.&quot;

Let&#039;s see, Republicans passed it, a Republican vetoed it.

Are all Republicans alike?

And while not favoring it because I believe it would be judging the taste of apples based on the color of oranges, I don&#039;t really see it making for smaller or less government. The government&#039;s share of education is exactly equal to its participation in education. If I say I will only buy red strawberries, am I increasing the size of my participation in the strawberry industry?

Now, if I say YOU can only buy strawberries if they are black and that you must buy three pounds per day, THAT would be increasing government  size and power.

 But what if I say strawberries have to be free of feces? Have I actually increased government involvement in strawberry growing or have I just codified what everybody expected in the first place?

Again, I&#039;m not saying this bill should have been passed, but it is silly to talk about ending government involvement while expecting government money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>REGARDING:<br />
&#8220;As for Republicans being for smaller and less government, after passing SB6, anyone else got a better joke to tell.&#8221;</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s see, Republicans passed it, a Republican vetoed it.</p>
<p>Are all Republicans alike?</p>
<p>And while not favoring it because I believe it would be judging the taste of apples based on the color of oranges, I don&#8217;t really see it making for smaller or less government. The government&#8217;s share of education is exactly equal to its participation in education. If I say I will only buy red strawberries, am I increasing the size of my participation in the strawberry industry?</p>
<p>Now, if I say YOU can only buy strawberries if they are black and that you must buy three pounds per day, THAT would be increasing government  size and power.</p>
<p> But what if I say strawberries have to be free of feces? Have I actually increased government involvement in strawberry growing or have I just codified what everybody expected in the first place?</p>
<p>Again, I&#8217;m not saying this bill should have been passed, but it is silly to talk about ending government involvement while expecting government money.</p>
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		<title>By: NOTE</title>
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		<dc:creator>NOTE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Apr 2010 14:57:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is blatanty obvious that many of the comments on here are from those who have never been teachers.  Until you walk a mile in their shoes . . . . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is blatanty obvious that many of the comments on here are from those who have never been teachers.  Until you walk a mile in their shoes . . . . .</p>
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