Comments on: Judge Prohibits Christian Educator Group From Involvement In ACLU Prayer Suit

By: bill, big b little ill

bill, big b little ill — Wed, 24 Feb 2010 15:47:23 +0000

Arguing over who is right or wrong between Christians just don’t make good sense. I do love to talk about God\Jesus.My favorite topic. So lets clear up a few things about praying out loud. No harm in asking the Lord to forgive you or to pray for some else. No harm in asking someone to say the blessing over a meal. The harm in praying out loud is being boastful, or your intention of praying trying to impress others with your prayer. The sincere prayer is always heard by God, if praying out loud was wrong, the disciples nor Jesus would have but they did.

I still say this is all just an attack on God. Not prayer..Prayer is how we communicate with the Father (God).

So maybe it would not hurt if you got down on your knees in private and ask God what he would have you say before you say it. Have a Blessed day in the Lord.

By: Parentwithabrain

Parentwithabrain — Wed, 24 Feb 2010 01:13:00 +0000

Rob, help me out here. Where exactly are Christians being stepped on? And while you are explaining that statement, tell me what would have happened if the teachers, staff and administrators who wish to preach/pray with your children were Wiccans? Would this be okay with you?

By: Parentwithabrain

Parentwithabrain — Wed, 24 Feb 2010 01:11:23 +0000

Thank God for smart judges!

By: bill, big b little ill

bill, big b little ill — Tue, 23 Feb 2010 19:58:46 +0000

ACLJ.ORG

By: Thinker

Thinker — Tue, 23 Feb 2010 15:45:41 +0000

Learn about the ACLU: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Civil_Liberties_Union

Who else do we have to fight for individual rights in the courts, excluding special interests like Christians !!!! Anyone got an answer to THAT ?

Of course, under our laws, if you are negatively affected as an individual, by a law, you can then go to court to fight it…IF YOU HAVE THE MONEY.

Quote: ~Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful. – Seneca the Younger

By: bill, big b little ill

bill, big b little ill — Mon, 22 Feb 2010 12:44:36 +0000

Thinker……maybe you just don’t fully understand the 10 commandments…Jesus just gave two, those two cover the whole ten, if you truly obey them.

By: Thinker

Thinker — Mon, 22 Feb 2010 01:47:27 +0000

To “Just wondering”: The teaching of ethics in school is something that, contrary to modeling religion, SHOULD be fought for in the courts. I’m no scholar on the subject, but ethics surely arise from many cultures. The Ten Commandments just don’t cover the spectrum. No mention of rape in there…just coveting. How about arson? …I guess Do unto others..l.covers most of the other stuff.
I am sympathetic to the constraints on teachers but know little about those constraints. Is there no national teacher’s organization that works in that direction?
Ethics, Personal Finance, Advertising resistance and savy, these are just a few of the things missing from public school education. Another is Food Education. Check out: http://www.ted.com/talks/jamie_oliver.html

By: B

Mon, 22 Feb 2010 01:06:38 +0000

In response to “Just Wondering”:

The decree with the district is for employees of the school district. Students are allowed to continue as they have been in the past. If they wish to pray or have their bible it is allowed. The teacher or other employee may not take part in a discussion related to any particular religions. Students may pray or participate in religious activities that do not conflict with regular schedules. They may not be excused from class to pray, but they will not be punished if they choose to pray at times when it is appropriate. Everyone should calm down and do what you feel is right. If you think that you have to be in someone’s face to pray or force it on someone else, then you definitely need to rethink your convictions. I agree with “Bill”. Basically we can offer silent prayer and still be believers. I don’t think I should have to run through the streets shouting and praying that I am a Christian. My life and actions speak for themselves. Just something to think about.

By: Pert

Pert — Sun, 21 Feb 2010 22:33:14 +0000

Farmer Tom, I can only guess that you DON’T know what you’re talking about concerning private schools. Our children went to a private school and have an education beyond what they would have gotten in a public school. They had discipline, PRAYER IF THEY WANTED, morals and ethics, and a GOOD EDUCATION!! The public schools should take a look. I’m very pleased with my children, they grew up to be moral people who look to the LORD, love their neighbors, respect man’s law and other’s rights. They certainly wouldn’t have gotten that in a public school. Of course the schools shouldn’t have to teach your children right from wrong, morals, ethics, or religion. That is the parent’s place. It’s a shame that parents are what they use to be. Even so come quickly Lord Jesus.

By: Just wondering

Just wondering — Sun, 21 Feb 2010 21:16:21 +0000

Thinker,
You said “Teach ethics and nobody will complain.” You’re wrong, sir or madame. We are no longer allowed to teach ethics, right or wrong. The new and “only” acceptable teaching is that “it’s what is right FOR YOU”. That’s a wonderful way to trample on the rights of every single person in this country. It may be “right” for me to steal from you because I can’t feed my kids. It may be “right” for you to push me out of your way because you can’t get to something. It may be “right” for you to seek “fulfillment” outside your marriage with another person’s spouse. I could go on and on but you should get the picture from that.
Like it or not, our legal system is based on the Ten Commandments. Thou shalt not steal. Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor. Thou shalt not commit adultery (yes, it is still illegal in many states and well it should be. If you wish to mess around with someone other than your spouse, GET A DIVORCE!).
These are ethics and we are not allowed to teach them.
Teach your kids to respect others. That should pretty well cover the entire spectrum of rights and responsibilities for everyone. That would include respecting their rights to believe what they wish and practice their religion as they please without us interfering with it.