Comments on: North Escambia Would Be Treated Differently Than Most Under Consolidation Plan

By: Oversight

Oversight — Wed, 13 Jan 2010 16:55:58 +0000

Quotes from the document that should make everyone cringe and here’s the money grab for city pension plan:

“C. As soon as practicable, the Council shall determine the pension plan or
plans to which new employees shall be members.”

and…

“The new city resulting from the consolidation of the City of Pensacola and the
Town of Century and Escambia County shall be a “municipality” for the purposes
of revenue sharing…”

Revenue sharing? Here is the catch-all phrase that is going to allow the downtown crowd to tap into our tax dollars! VOTE NO ON CONSOLIDATION! It is obvious that the only benefactor for this is Pensacola.

By: deBugger

deBugger — Wed, 13 Jan 2010 12:10:15 +0000

Anyone have any ideas on how to convince SouthEnders that consolidation isn’t in THEIR best interests?

Let the public relations campaign begin!

By: Oversight

Oversight — Wed, 13 Jan 2010 11:53:54 +0000

“Blinded” is truly BLIND! No, I’m not Dave Murzin – not even close. But you can keep trying (wink for you – William). I live in the real North Escambia and from here; it’s some 20 miles down to Cantonment. I stand by my observations of Greg Evers and he is nothing more than a used car salesman who has sold his constituents out in the name of consolidation.

By: Dave Murzin

Dave Murzin — Wed, 13 Jan 2010 06:30:58 +0000

If anyone would like to discuss consolidation efforts, trains or any other issue with me, I encourage you to contact me directly. I do not post to blogs under any other name but my own. I invite you to contact me directly at davemurzin@yahoo.com or call my cell at 380-8249. Thanks, Dave

By: anydaynow

anydaynow — Wed, 13 Jan 2010 04:37:41 +0000

A lot of good points have been made on this matter.
In regard to the proposed project on the west side of the county, remember what happened with the “town” that Santa Rosa was going to build, the county had town hall meetings for “citizen input” and all sorts of show was put on, then once all the rezoning was done there was a sudden change of plan. No new town.
I think that a well organized collective voice of the rural citizens of the county should speak for themselves in Tallahassee, perhaps there is a local attorney that could help with drawing up a well crafted statement that expresses the will of rural citizens. The south end has never needed you before, so I’m wondering why they need you now. Maybe they’ve run out of places to “create jobs” by building strip malls. Just think how many driveways and strip malls they could put along 29. Getting organized and staying motivated for the next two years will be necessary because 2 years is long enough for folks to forget what’s been taking place, yet plenty of time for the south end to be better organized against the north end.
Take a look at this, see those two devilish little districts up our way?? How’d that come to be, such a small area with their own district??
http://www.fairdistrictsflorida.org/home.php

By: I Can See Clearly Now....

I Can See Clearly Now.... — Wed, 13 Jan 2010 03:33:10 +0000

Thank YOU, BBTL cuz I can see clearly now, son… But, Oversight, your right-on. If The Murz had his way he would have sent the money and power a little farther south like Orlando. Remember his love of trains, $450 million big ones for his buds CSX (big Murz contributors). Truth is that a lot of our road moneys have went over the past few years to support this waste. Way to go, Murz. When you want to talk about sponsorships, that was quit a sponsor. You’d have us consolidated with South Florida. But now to the line….. If Greg was the only rep to vote for this he has a very powerful vote for sure. But it was unanimous. As chairman he did what was asked to do by the elected officials in the county. Remember then (unlike now) the County Commission supported the study, Century supported the study and Pensacola supported the study. So he put consolidation forward to be studied and worked out so as I have been told. Will he vote to bring this to the people for final say? I don’t know, But if Greg;s one vote passed this, The Murz can call in his choo choo buddiess from South Florida to kill this in the House. Remember the $450 million favors The Murz is owed by folks in Orlando, Miami, Broward & Palm Beach. (LOL), I would hope Greg will read this for himself and come to the conclusion it needs a lot of work. I say let’s put it off. 2012 works for me!!! Even better: 2020 or 2030. Maybe by then, we’ll have us a choo choo. Or better even yet…. a road.

By: Blinded By The Light

Blinded By The Light — Wed, 13 Jan 2010 03:11:18 +0000

Oversight a/k/a Dave Murzin, get off your blackberry. You don’t belong in North Escambia and we don’t need your “oversight” here. Evers voted – just like you did and the whole rest of the delegation did UNANIMOUSLY – to let a study group form to make some recommendations and come back for a real decision. He only did that after he made sure that North Escambians had a seat at the table to participate on that commission in making those recommendations. If I remember correctly – and I was there – you had some amendment that night that would have just let them have their election without any oversight or review.

The real test is what each of you do with those recommendations – you included. You especially. We’ll take the oversight on from there and we’ll make sure we hold each one of you accountable. You don’t need to campaign up here in North Escambia. Quit wasting your time. We make our own minds up and we know you. More importantly, we know Evers.

By: Oversight

Oversight — Wed, 13 Jan 2010 02:46:23 +0000

As chair and leader, Evers owed us the responsibility to lookout for our best interest; he did not! He could have sat on the motion and let it die or relieved himself as a conflict if he did not agree with the process of consolidation and let one of the other reps run with it. But he didn’t do that. He pressed on at the pleasure of those with consolidation stars in their eyes, so he could benefit from their financial support for his state senate run. Just recently there was an article that boasts how much money Evers has raised… Hmmm, where all that cash came from? Surely not from North Escambia folks!

By: S.L.B

S.L.B — Wed, 13 Jan 2010 00:29:14 +0000

This article states: Escambia County Commission has asked the legislature to delay any possible vote on the plan until 2012.

When is the legislature scheduled to decide if their will be a delay on the Consolidation vote?

By: Oversight is so misinformed...

Oversight is so misinformed... — Tue, 12 Jan 2010 21:05:11 +0000

Again, Oversight, you are sorely misinformed on this issue. I will try to spell it out for you since you are such an Evers hater and a lover of Murzin for some reason unknown. As the Delegation Chair, it is the responsibility of that person to carry the bill or the proposal that is before the delegation. As Chair, Evers did carry the proposal to deal with consolidation. It does not mean in any way that he supported it or was even pushing for it or at the least an advocate of consolidation. But it was his responsibility to carry the proposal and he has since received a lot of flack for it. Especially seen here on this website by people such as yourself. Evers is no longer the chair of the delegation. It is Clay Ford. So any hatred towards consolidation should be directed at the entire delegation for going forward with such a proposal. This includes Dave Murzin. The other thing that needs to be considered is that this is something that the delegation was allowing the people of Escambia County to vote on in the coming elections. It by no means put into place consolidation. And the bottom line is that the people of the area deserve to have a voice and say. And if they didn’t want it, then they could have simply voted not on it. But once again, you should not penalize someone for carrying a proposal when it was that person’s duty as the chair to carry it.