Comments on: Did Consolidation Committee Members Violate Sunshine Law?

By: David Huie Green

David Huie Green — Sun, 27 Dec 2009 22:54:22 +0000

“Somebody’s got to support the fat cat republicans, and it looks like it’s gonna take everybody in the county to accomplish that.”

Are you sure they aren’t Democrats? It sure sounds like a Democrat type thing.

By: anydaynow

anydaynow — Sun, 27 Dec 2009 03:26:37 +0000

But how will Pensacola repay the bond debt for the CMP if they don’t consolidate with the county so they have more taxpayers to contribute to that debt? Those fat cats that bought those bonds will collect one way or the other, and repayment of the $40-some odd millions of dollars will be $90M+ according to Studer and Wiggins. Somebody’s got to support the fat cat republicans, and it looks like it’s gonna take everybody in the county to accomplish that.

By: David Huie Green

David Huie Green — Sat, 26 Dec 2009 01:50:09 +0000

“and the sign coming over the overpass from Flomaton is going to read: Welcome to Pensacola……City Limits”

PICTURE IT:
“Are we there yet?”

“Honey, that sign said we were inside Pensacol City limits nearly half an hour ago.”

“Yeah, Dad, I thought Pensacola had beaches but all I’ve seen is trees.”

“Somebody lied to us.”

“If youse guys don’t quiet down, I’ll turn this car around and go back!”

“Great, another half hour of trees inside the ‘City’ of Pensacola.”

By: David Huie Green

David Huie Green — Sat, 26 Dec 2009 01:42:43 +0000

This definitely slows down government, usually a good thing.

It appears our Sunshine Law makes it impossible to communicate with anyone else without everybody in the world being in on the communication. (That’d be like nonstop me.)

Maybe it’ll work. If you can’t blind them with your brilliance, bury them under your bull. It should be interesting if the time ever comes where every last part of the decision making process has to be made public.

Reading the information they make public shows consolidation is seldom more efficient. It has a failure rate somewhere around six to one.

It usually fails unless they exclude full consolidation in things like police protection.

It usually fails unless they give special services for certain areas with higher localized taxes to boot, (Basically the same way annexation works now, join the city, pay higher taxes but get better services and protection.)

It usually fails unless they (pretend to?) isolate pre-existing debts from becoming general debts.

It usually fails if it is not careful to preserve special ethnic status to minorities, gerrymandering districts to insure their majority status inside some districts. This is socially polarizing but makes existing leaders happy.
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It is more likely to pass if proponents can convince voters Consolidation will somehow draw businesses in from afar to improve the local economy. I didn’t see where it actually accomplished that goal, but simply promising it
sometime in the indeterminate future
somehow sometimes convinces voters
if done with a straight face.

THIS IS MUCH HARDER TO ACCOMPLISH IF THEY HAVE TO DO IT COMPLETELY IN THE OPEN..

David the disappointed

By: Bob

Bob — Fri, 25 Dec 2009 04:07:39 +0000

How in the world can a bunch of egotistical maniacs think they may be able to draft anything in the best interest of Escambia citizens. There is going to be an uprising from the general population before this draft gets to the voters,and the people that are responsible are going to be long remembered. Greg Evers is tops on my list to remember and the long list will grow from that point.

By: Bob

Bob — Fri, 25 Dec 2009 03:12:27 +0000

They learned from our Democratic Congress…..backroom deals…….before you know it, we will blink and the sign coming over the overpass from Flomaton is going to read: Welcome to Pensacola……City Limits

By: harry reid, jr

harry reid, jr — Thu, 24 Dec 2009 17:13:46 +0000

what’s wrong with cramming legislation down the throats of the american people?

after all, isn’t that how its done?

By: No Way Consolidation

No Way Consolidation — Thu, 24 Dec 2009 15:05:48 +0000

Darn. I was hoping he was asking for your approval on the proposal, or you were spelling out to him what we want up here in the north end.

By: William

William — Thu, 24 Dec 2009 15:01:06 +0000

“No Way Consolidation” — I had called Justice Bell and requested a copy of the draft proposal to that date. He emailed it, and I thanked him.

That info ended up this article:

http://www.northescambia.com/?p=12460

By: No Way Consolidation

No Way Consolidation — Thu, 24 Dec 2009 14:58:46 +0000

I noticed in the full emails that there are emails between Ken Bell and William at northescambia.com. What’s up with that.

The one from Bell says “Here it is” and William replies “Thanks.” That makes a lot of sense.