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	<title>Comments on: Government Consolidation Plan Begins To Take Shape; Read The Report</title>
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		<title>By: robert Hudson</title>
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		<dc:creator>robert Hudson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:58:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well thank you Pensacola, we (yahoos) will take a no vote from any one who will vote down this consolidation, seems we are all on the same side after all.VOTE NO ON CONSOLIDATION!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well thank you Pensacola, we (yahoos) will take a no vote from any one who will vote down this consolidation, seems we are all on the same side after all.VOTE NO ON CONSOLIDATION!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Pensacola</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pensacola</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 03:27:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It looks like a bad deal for the city od pensacola to me.        They will be giving their superior services to the yahoos in the county but retaining all the debt......what a con job.        You can keep your volunteers and 15  to 30 minute responce times for cops, I&#039;ll stay in the city with my higher taxes and better services.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It looks like a bad deal for the city od pensacola to me.        They will be giving their superior services to the yahoos in the county but retaining all the debt&#8230;&#8230;what a con job.        You can keep your volunteers and 15  to 30 minute responce times for cops, I&#8217;ll stay in the city with my higher taxes and better services.</p>
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		<title>By: H#LL NO</title>
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		<dc:creator>H#LL NO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 02:00:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NOPE WE DO NOT WANT THIS OR DO WE NEED THIS,YEA WE ALREADY LET THEM TAKE ABOUT EVERYTHING ELSE WE HAVE PLEASE FOR ONCE LETS STAND TOGETHER   PENSACOLA SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NOPE WE DO NOT WANT THIS OR DO WE NEED THIS,YEA WE ALREADY LET THEM TAKE ABOUT EVERYTHING ELSE WE HAVE PLEASE FOR ONCE LETS STAND TOGETHER   PENSACOLA SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Century Woman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Century Woman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 01:54:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whoever thinks that Century is a dump should not be or live in Century. Century may not have the same that Pensacola may have but, we don&#039;t need to be consolidated with a city that is in trouble and wants someone else to carry some of the load. Century is a town in itself that may have problems but, we don&#039;t need anymore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoever thinks that Century is a dump should not be or live in Century. Century may not have the same that Pensacola may have but, we don&#8217;t need to be consolidated with a city that is in trouble and wants someone else to carry some of the load. Century is a town in itself that may have problems but, we don&#8217;t need anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: robert Hudson</title>
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		<dc:creator>robert Hudson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:26:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well of all the people that I know , and I do know a lot of people. no one has a bad septic system. No one. So push your rules on somone one else. This is exactly why no one wishes to join the city and be forced to change things that do work. Water run off is far worse than a septic tank, and yet they wish to build a maritime park and ball field, on the bay. So where is all that water run off going to go? Why in the bay of course. Sorry I do not buy in to all the so called threats  to our enviroment. Is it call global warming now , or is it climate change? Or is it what we have always called it, weather.  And by the way I do have a horse as a back up form of transport. Do you think I need to put a diaper on her? Out here we use poop as a fertilizer, and it grows really great earth worms.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well of all the people that I know , and I do know a lot of people. no one has a bad septic system. No one. So push your rules on somone one else. This is exactly why no one wishes to join the city and be forced to change things that do work. Water run off is far worse than a septic tank, and yet they wish to build a maritime park and ball field, on the bay. So where is all that water run off going to go? Why in the bay of course. Sorry I do not buy in to all the so called threats  to our enviroment. Is it call global warming now , or is it climate change? Or is it what we have always called it, weather.  And by the way I do have a horse as a back up form of transport. Do you think I need to put a diaper on her? Out here we use poop as a fertilizer, and it grows really great earth worms.</p>
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		<title>By: Darryl</title>
		<link>http://www.northescambia.com/2009/11/government-consolidation-plan-begins-to-take-shape-read-the-report/comment-page-1#comment-26033</link>
		<dc:creator>Darryl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 16:34:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Never said a waste water treatment plant can&#039;t have a spill, especially during flooding, but that also makes septic tanks leak as well.  In flooding, nothing is full proof.

The new systems I referred to that hopefully will take the place of a septic tank, actually clean the water before releasing it, where over flow out of a septic tank just goes into the ground, so people with wells could have contamination.

Robert if you keep your septic tank maintained, great, for most do not and thus the problem with them.  But during flooding even a septic tank can leak out contiminated water.  And doing a better system isn&#039;t punishment but an improvement.  If we cling to our established ways thinking any change is bad or punishment we&#039;d still be riding horses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Never said a waste water treatment plant can&#8217;t have a spill, especially during flooding, but that also makes septic tanks leak as well.  In flooding, nothing is full proof.</p>
<p>The new systems I referred to that hopefully will take the place of a septic tank, actually clean the water before releasing it, where over flow out of a septic tank just goes into the ground, so people with wells could have contamination.</p>
<p>Robert if you keep your septic tank maintained, great, for most do not and thus the problem with them.  But during flooding even a septic tank can leak out contiminated water.  And doing a better system isn&#8217;t punishment but an improvement.  If we cling to our established ways thinking any change is bad or punishment we&#8217;d still be riding horses.</p>
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		<title>By: robert Hudson</title>
		<link>http://www.northescambia.com/2009/11/government-consolidation-plan-begins-to-take-shape-read-the-report/comment-page-1#comment-26024</link>
		<dc:creator>robert Hudson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 14:46:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well Darryl you put your poop where you want to, and I will put mine in my nice, safe septic tank , and when it breaks I&#039;ll fix it. Just because some people do not do the right thing in not reason to punish the rest of us. And so you also think that they can&#039;t possible have a mishap and dump thousand of gallons of sewage in to the water? You are not facing reality. Sorry I&#039;ll stay with what I know works, because I am in control of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Darryl you put your poop where you want to, and I will put mine in my nice, safe septic tank , and when it breaks I&#8217;ll fix it. Just because some people do not do the right thing in not reason to punish the rest of us. And so you also think that they can&#8217;t possible have a mishap and dump thousand of gallons of sewage in to the water? You are not facing reality. Sorry I&#8217;ll stay with what I know works, because I am in control of it.</p>
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		<title>By: bmb</title>
		<link>http://www.northescambia.com/2009/11/government-consolidation-plan-begins-to-take-shape-read-the-report/comment-page-1#comment-26019</link>
		<dc:creator>bmb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 14:25:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Salt water intrusion, look it up.  Desalination is an expensive undertaking, ask the Navy.  It is and always will be about water.  They tried years ago to say all &quot;Unicorporated&quot; water systems automatically were county owned, but a smart lady named Louise outfoxed the city slicker men and managed to educate the north end water systems and proper paperwork followed and the rural water systems still exist.  There needs to be an uprising of folks who put the power people in their place and make them understand we don&#039;t want their lifestyles, we don&#039;t want their debt, we DON&#039;T WANT CONSOLODATION.  Exercise your right of freedom of speech and exercise your power and VOTE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Salt water intrusion, look it up.  Desalination is an expensive undertaking, ask the Navy.  It is and always will be about water.  They tried years ago to say all &#8220;Unicorporated&#8221; water systems automatically were county owned, but a smart lady named Louise outfoxed the city slicker men and managed to educate the north end water systems and proper paperwork followed and the rural water systems still exist.  There needs to be an uprising of folks who put the power people in their place and make them understand we don&#8217;t want their lifestyles, we don&#8217;t want their debt, we DON&#8217;T WANT CONSOLODATION.  Exercise your right of freedom of speech and exercise your power and VOTE.</p>
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		<title>By: Darryl</title>
		<link>http://www.northescambia.com/2009/11/government-consolidation-plan-begins-to-take-shape-read-the-report/comment-page-1#comment-26017</link>
		<dc:creator>Darryl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 14:20:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On consolidation, vote as you see fit, for you have to live with it.  but Robert, over time septic tanks do leak and cause problems in our water system.  There are studies and case studies with new systems that use certain plant species and means of slowly running water through a natural filtering system that hopefully take the place of septic tanks, and may even take the place of public systems in some areas.

I know one of the main contaminates in the rivers and bayous in Escambia County/Pensacola was fecal matter, which most was coming from old septic tanks.  As to water quality and septic tanks look at some of the issues involved in links:

http://www-csgc.ucsd.edu/NEWSROOM/NEWSRELEASES/2009/CoastalWaterQuality.html

excerpt from NC piece:
&quot;Sewage from the new development poses problems in the form of leaking septic tanks, poorly regulated &quot;package treatment plants&quot; (small unmanned sewage treatment plants that are typically designed to serve one development or business), leaking sewage lines, and poorly operated sewage treatment plants.&quot;
link:
http://www.catawbariverkeeper.org/News/waterqualityfacts

and locally, here&#039;s an old op piece:
http://www.pnj.com/article/99999999/NEWS10/90814013
excerpt:
&quot;Meanwhile, the DEP report states, chemicals in prescription drugs and personal care products like soap, cosmetics, sunscreens, fragrances and over-the-counter medications have already been linked to disruption of the natural sex balance in fish, with more females and fewer males being born. They also cause more fish of “indeterminate sex.”

The real question: What is their impact on human reproduction?

And the most common source of these chemicals in the environment? Wastewater discharges (including septic tanks), sewage sludge and animal manure applied to land, and contaminated water leaking from old landfills. &quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On consolidation, vote as you see fit, for you have to live with it.  but Robert, over time septic tanks do leak and cause problems in our water system.  There are studies and case studies with new systems that use certain plant species and means of slowly running water through a natural filtering system that hopefully take the place of septic tanks, and may even take the place of public systems in some areas.</p>
<p>I know one of the main contaminates in the rivers and bayous in Escambia County/Pensacola was fecal matter, which most was coming from old septic tanks.  As to water quality and septic tanks look at some of the issues involved in links:</p>
<p><a href="http://www-csgc.ucsd.edu/NEWSROOM/NEWSRELEASES/2009/CoastalWaterQuality.html" rel="nofollow">http://www-csgc.ucsd.edu/NEWSROOM/NEWSRELEASES/2009/CoastalWaterQuality.html</a></p>
<p>excerpt from NC piece:<br />
&#8220;Sewage from the new development poses problems in the form of leaking septic tanks, poorly regulated &#8220;package treatment plants&#8221; (small unmanned sewage treatment plants that are typically designed to serve one development or business), leaking sewage lines, and poorly operated sewage treatment plants.&#8221;<br />
link:<br />
<a href="http://www.catawbariverkeeper.org/News/waterqualityfacts" rel="nofollow">http://www.catawbariverkeeper.org/News/waterqualityfacts</a></p>
<p>and locally, here&#8217;s an old op piece:<br />
<a href="http://www.pnj.com/article/99999999/NEWS10/90814013" rel="nofollow">http://www.pnj.com/article/99999999/NEWS10/90814013</a><br />
excerpt:<br />
&#8220;Meanwhile, the DEP report states, chemicals in prescription drugs and personal care products like soap, cosmetics, sunscreens, fragrances and over-the-counter medications have already been linked to disruption of the natural sex balance in fish, with more females and fewer males being born. They also cause more fish of “indeterminate sex.”</p>
<p>The real question: What is their impact on human reproduction?</p>
<p>And the most common source of these chemicals in the environment? Wastewater discharges (including septic tanks), sewage sludge and animal manure applied to land, and contaminated water leaking from old landfills. &#8220;</p>
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		<title>By: Willene</title>
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		<dc:creator>Willene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 12:45:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vote No !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
On Consolidation !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vote No !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<br />
On Consolidation !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
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