Comments on: Little Local Interest In Government Consolidation Committee Meeting http://www.northescambia.com/2009/10/little-local-interest-in-government-consolidation-committee-meeting Local News for Molino, Bratt, McDavid, Century, Walnut Hill, Cantonment Tue, 28 Apr 2026 15:32:49 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: robert Hudson http://www.northescambia.com/2009/10/little-local-interest-in-government-consolidation-committee-meeting/comment-page-1#comment-23612 robert Hudson Sat, 17 Oct 2009 01:47:52 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=11409#comment-23612 I and many others are going to vote this down, Pensacola is dead broke and we are not going to foot their bills. VOTE NO ON CONSOLIDATION. I and many others are going to vote this down, Pensacola is dead broke and we are not going to foot their bills. VOTE NO ON CONSOLIDATION.

]]> By: David Huie Green http://www.northescambia.com/2009/10/little-local-interest-in-government-consolidation-committee-meeting/comment-page-1#comment-23090 David Huie Green Fri, 09 Oct 2009 19:42:30 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=11409#comment-23090 REGARDING: "Pensacola has been unable to annex territory in the past due to the very same backwards looking thinking that you are displaying right now. My whole purpose for advocating consolidation is to do away with the existing governments and replace them with something more workable, accountable, and sustainable" Interesting. The only reason not to buy into any and all proposed change is "backwards looking thinking"? Lack of trust that just changing things inherently makes them better. You just gotta love the folks who think anyone who disagrees or even questions must do so simply because they are too stupid to see the light. Somebody has to love them, anyway. Don't they? David for remembering the past and not assuming all trends are THE future REGARDING:
“Pensacola has been unable to annex territory in the past due to the very same backwards looking thinking that you are displaying right now. My whole purpose for advocating consolidation is to do away with the existing governments and replace them with something more workable, accountable, and sustainable”

Interesting. The only reason not to buy into any and all proposed change is “backwards looking thinking”? Lack of trust that just changing things inherently makes them better.

You just gotta love the folks who think anyone who disagrees or even questions must do so simply because they are too stupid to see the light.

Somebody has to love them, anyway.

Don’t they?

David for remembering the past and not assuming all trends are THE future

]]> By: Pensacola resident http://www.northescambia.com/2009/10/little-local-interest-in-government-consolidation-committee-meeting/comment-page-1#comment-23057 Pensacola resident Fri, 09 Oct 2009 13:16:21 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=11409#comment-23057 > Simple question, will the county inherit the city debt, and the debt of the maritime park? Yes or No? The All For One Answer: No sir, the county will not inherit the city debt and the debt of the maritime park. ** the fine print: You and your children will inherit the debt plus millions in interest. And don't for get about our fat pension checks...only in Pcola can you make more after you retire. > Simple question, will the county inherit the city debt, and the debt of the maritime park? Yes or No?

The All For One Answer:

No sir, the county will not inherit the city debt and the debt of the maritime park.

** the fine print: You and your children will inherit the debt plus millions in interest. And don’t for get about our fat pension checks…only in Pcola can you make more after you retire.

]]> By: robert Hudson http://www.northescambia.com/2009/10/little-local-interest-in-government-consolidation-committee-meeting/comment-page-1#comment-23056 robert Hudson Fri, 09 Oct 2009 13:12:25 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=11409#comment-23056 Simple question, will the county inherit the city debt, and the debt of the maritime park? Yes or No? Simple question, will the county inherit the city debt, and the debt of the maritime park? Yes or No?

]]> By: ??? http://www.northescambia.com/2009/10/little-local-interest-in-government-consolidation-committee-meeting/comment-page-1#comment-23033 ??? Fri, 09 Oct 2009 03:04:17 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=11409#comment-23033 VOTE YES TO CONSOLIDATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :) VOTE YES TO CONSOLIDATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :)

]]> By: Century resident http://www.northescambia.com/2009/10/little-local-interest-in-government-consolidation-committee-meeting/comment-page-1#comment-23024 Century resident Fri, 09 Oct 2009 00:43:27 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=11409#comment-23024 I have to agree with Bryan. Well written post sir. I have to agree with Bryan. Well written post sir.

]]> By: robert Hudson http://www.northescambia.com/2009/10/little-local-interest-in-government-consolidation-committee-meeting/comment-page-1#comment-23023 robert Hudson Fri, 09 Oct 2009 00:25:49 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=11409#comment-23023 By the way, pensacola is going to vote on a strong mayor? Whow!!!!! Just like jacksonville. How odd , that is just what EAFO wants. VOTE NO ON CONSOLIDATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! By the way, pensacola is going to vote on a strong mayor? Whow!!!!! Just like jacksonville. How odd , that is just what EAFO wants. VOTE NO ON CONSOLIDATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

]]> By: robert Hudson http://www.northescambia.com/2009/10/little-local-interest-in-government-consolidation-committee-meeting/comment-page-1#comment-23022 robert Hudson Fri, 09 Oct 2009 00:20:53 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=11409#comment-23022 Well why not see if those as you say , from the I-10 and down would like to join the city, And quit whining about how hard it is to annex those who would want to join. Problem is no one wants to join. The city is drowning in debt. And by the way , you need to answer my question. Will the county inherit the debt of the city and the maritime park? There is no leadership in pensacola. And a lot of us do not wish to pay for the low wage tourist projects that the city seem' s to be obsess with. Yes or No, will the county inherit the city debt? No dancing. Well why not see if those as you say , from the I-10 and down would like to join the city, And quit whining about how hard it is to annex those who would want to join. Problem is no one wants to join. The city is drowning in debt. And by the way , you need to answer my question. Will the county inherit the debt of the city and the maritime park? There is no leadership in pensacola. And a lot of us do not wish to pay for the low wage tourist projects that the city seem’ s to be obsess with. Yes or No, will the county inherit the city debt? No dancing.

]]> By: Bryan Bethea http://www.northescambia.com/2009/10/little-local-interest-in-government-consolidation-committee-meeting/comment-page-1#comment-23021 Bryan Bethea Fri, 09 Oct 2009 00:00:34 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=11409#comment-23021 There is no dancing coming from here. I am simply addressing the arguments you keep raising about being taken over, not needing Pensacola, etc. Pensacola has been unable to annex territory in the past due to the very same backwards looking thinking that you are displaying right now. My whole purpose for advocating consolidation is to do away with the existing governments and replace them with something more workable, accountable, and sustainable. You are missing the entire point of the consolidation effort. You keep mentioning that the City will run the County the way the City is run today. That is false. The "City" will cease to exist and will be a consolidated entity along with the County. How can an entity that ceases to exist run anything? The entire framework of local government will be revamped. My personal opinion, and yes it is MY opinion, is that you are afraid of change. I hear you opposing the consolidation but with no concrete reasons for doing so. It seems to be an emotional response on your part. I was born and raised in northern Escambia County and have frequently heard the "us vs. them" rants from north-enders. Why does it have to be that way? Why can't this be an opportunity for US to solve the biggest challenges facing our community? What is your alternative to consolidation? If Pensacola annexes everything south of 10 Mile Road then the tax base of the County is gone. I wonder what level of service the north end will receive then? Nothing. Services in the north end are already subsidized by the property taxes paid by County residents south of 10 Mile Road. If those folks start paying the City instead of the County what will Century, Molino, and Walnut Hill be left with? There is no dancing coming from here. I am simply addressing the arguments you keep raising about being taken over, not needing Pensacola, etc. Pensacola has been unable to annex territory in the past due to the very same backwards looking thinking that you are displaying right now. My whole purpose for advocating consolidation is to do away with the existing governments and replace them with something more workable, accountable, and sustainable.

You are missing the entire point of the consolidation effort. You keep mentioning that the City will run the County the way the City is run today. That is false. The “City” will cease to exist and will be a consolidated entity along with the County. How can an entity that ceases to exist run anything? The entire framework of local government will be revamped.

My personal opinion, and yes it is MY opinion, is that you are afraid of change. I hear you opposing the consolidation but with no concrete reasons for doing so. It seems to be an emotional response on your part. I was born and raised in northern Escambia County and have frequently heard the “us vs. them” rants from north-enders. Why does it have to be that way? Why can’t this be an opportunity for US to solve the biggest challenges facing our community? What is your alternative to consolidation?

If Pensacola annexes everything south of 10 Mile Road then the tax base of the County is gone. I wonder what level of service the north end will receive then? Nothing. Services in the north end are already subsidized by the property taxes paid by County residents south of 10 Mile Road. If those folks start paying the City instead of the County what will Century, Molino, and Walnut Hill be left with?

]]> By: Century resident http://www.northescambia.com/2009/10/little-local-interest-in-government-consolidation-committee-meeting/comment-page-1#comment-23018 Century resident Thu, 08 Oct 2009 23:24:03 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=11409#comment-23018 Well, thanks for trying Bryan but, as you can see it's like talking to a tree. Once someone gets their mind wrapped around a problem in one direction, it's hard to put the facts to them and force change. Sad actually. Well, thanks for trying Bryan but, as you can see it’s like talking to a tree. Once someone gets their mind wrapped around a problem in one direction, it’s hard to put the facts to them and force change. Sad actually.

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