Comments on: Update: Lay, Freeman Defense Fund Surpasses $16,000

By: Caroline Deonarine

Caroline Deonarine — Sat, 22 Aug 2009 22:12:03 +0000

Dear Mr. Freeman and Mr. Lay,

I will be praying for both of you. You are both good men. God bless both of you.

By: Margo M. Carmichael

Margo M. Carmichael — Thu, 20 Aug 2009 16:49:14 +0000

I cried as I wrote my little check. How far down we’ve come since this:

While encamped on the banks of a river, Washington was approached by Delaware Indian chiefs who desired that their youth be trained in American schools. In Washington’s response, he first told them that “Congress… will look on them as on their own children.” [4] That is, we would train their children as if they were our own. He then commended the chiefs for their decision:

You do well to wish to learn our arts and our ways of life and above all, the religion of Jesus Christ. These will make you a greater and happier people than you are. Congress will do everything they can to assist you in this wise intention. [4]

According to George Washington, what students would learn in American schools “above all” was “the religion of Jesus Christ.”
http://www.christiananswers.net/q-wall/wal-g011.html

By: sadie

sadie — Thu, 13 Aug 2009 19:15:56 +0000

This is crazy!!!!! Do we not have BETTER issues to tend to! I was told that the person that reported Mr. Lay was a CHRISTIAN ! They just thought that they needed to do the right thing! Well, that was not the right thing to do. I hope that this person’s heart lays very heavy for the action that they have taken in this issue! This person needs to take a long hard look at whats in there heart. Is this really a action of God’s child or not ? Mr. Lay and family hang in there ! Our prayers are with you! GOD TAKES CARE OF HIS OWN!!!

By: Mia

Mia — Thu, 13 Aug 2009 00:41:11 +0000

I agree with( iknowit), two children have taken a lot away from our children. I just say send those two children to some foreign country where children have no rights and let them know what freedom is. They would not have the chance to turn thousands of lives up side down. The little worms would be silenced. What has happened to the majority rule! It looks like the minority are the rulers of America . I just feel sorry for Mr Lay and the other people involved. The ACLU NEEDS TO LEAVE MILTON, PACE ALONE go find something in California to mess up. Oh Wait they have already messed them up.

By: bjohnson

bjohnson — Wed, 12 Aug 2009 20:20:32 +0000

The court order said not to lead prayers at school functions. That is what he is in trouble for. I assume when you pray over your food at work you don’t get up in front of everybody ask then to bow their head then begain speeking. If he would have prayed on his own over his food the Judge would not have invited him down to his court room.

By: AC

AC — Wed, 12 Aug 2009 20:05:10 +0000

HE DID NOT LEAD KIDS IN A PRAYER!!! Why can’t people understand that this is NOT the argument here!! He asked someone to say a prayer over a meal when only ADULTS were present. Nobody is saying that students, or anyone else, should be forced to pray. THAT IS NOT THE ISSUE!!! I, and most Christians, agree that no one should be forced into religious ceremonies that they are uncomfortable with. The issue, at least to me, is that EVERYONE should share the same rights under the Constitution, whether you are a government employee or not. If his religion calls for him to say grace over his food, then why can’t he do it where he is employed, as long as he is not forcing others to do it? I say grace over my food when I’m at work, I’m not trying to force others to do it, so leave me alone. Learn what the argument is before you join in!

By: reacret

reacret — Wed, 12 Aug 2009 19:48:53 +0000

Can anyone reading this forum explain this “double standard” to me? Presidents of the United States, Supreme Court Judges, etc. are sworn in with their hands on the Bible, ending with: so help me God. This is done in front of millions of people, without concern of offending atheists, buddhists, etc. Why is it legal in this setting to call on God as a higher power for help and assistance, but the average person cannot do so?

By: judy

judy — Wed, 12 Aug 2009 18:52:49 +0000

ive listened to several segments of this story on FOX NEWS…from what ive gathered, one of the gentlemen was merely asked to say the blessing before a meal…the group gathering consisted of adults…not students….the ACLU will look for any minuscule reason to take someone to court in order to attempt to stifle our freedoms to practice our Christian religion …i believe that one of their primary missions in life is to suppress ANY public expression or discussion of God, Jesus or the Christian religion, in general…

By: netizen_james

netizen_james — Wed, 12 Aug 2009 17:55:21 +0000

So when the Hindu or Wiccan teachers and administrators start leading your children in prayers to their gods in your public schools, this will not be a problem for anyone, right?

Wrong.

Y’all know that would be a problem. So leading kids in Christian prayers is just as much of a problem, as the government isn’t authorized to promote ANY religion. Note carefully that while at the public school, on ‘company time’ as it were, teachers ARE the government.

“The ‘establishment of religion’ clause of the First Amendment means at least this: Neither a state nor the Federal Government can set up a church. Neither can pass laws which aid one religion, aid all religions, or prefer one religion over another. ” (Supreme Court – /Everson/)

N_J

By: Susan

Susan — Wed, 12 Aug 2009 14:41:08 +0000

Frank Lay should never have signed the order against prayer in schools, if he didn’t intend to stop. Has he said why he signed it when he is convinced that he should be able to pray and have his (and only his) religion in his school? Maybe I could understand his actions if he had refused to sign the order, but I can’t condone him doing it the way he did.

Everyone is entitled to his religious opinions (or lack of) , but not in the schools.

Take your children to church to learn of your beliefs, show them by example in your home, but let them go to school to get an education.

Frank Lay has put too much tention and distraction in the schools.
It is time to get back to school to learn, not be side tracked by all this craziness.