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	<title>Comments on: Flomaton Police Chief Released By Town&#8217;s Mayor</title>
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		<title>By: David Huie Green</title>
		<link>http://www.northescambia.com/2009/07/flomaton-police-chief-fired-by-the-towns-mayor/comment-page-1#comment-15533</link>
		<dc:creator>David Huie Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 06:13:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Concerning:
&quot;AND YES- Public Officials do have to comply with Morals and Standards concerning their character- Just ask Bill Clinton&quot;

Actually, President Clinton proved you can get away with anything if you don&#039;t mind embarassing yourself and your family.

The President IS above the law. He can not be compelled to do anything and can only be stopped if Congress is willing to impeach and remove him from office.

Only two presidents were ever impeached and neither was removed from office. The first, Andrew Johnson, was actually innocent. The second was proven to have lied to a federal judge regarding federal charges that he used his position to gain sexual favors. His defenders said &quot;Well, everybody lies about sex.&quot;

it did not matter to them that ti was a federal crime.

Lesser officials have twisted the law as they saw fit. Consider W. D. Childers. he got in trouble as county commissioner because he kept acting like he had always done in state office. Yes, he finally got caught but how many do not? Even at that he almost walked and the judge who complained had to face the wrath of the state supreme court for mentioning the judge handling his case had too close of ties with him, the one who wanted to turn him loose out of hand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Concerning:<br />
&#8220;AND YES- Public Officials do have to comply with Morals and Standards concerning their character- Just ask Bill Clinton&#8221;</p>
<p>Actually, President Clinton proved you can get away with anything if you don&#8217;t mind embarassing yourself and your family.</p>
<p>The President IS above the law. He can not be compelled to do anything and can only be stopped if Congress is willing to impeach and remove him from office.</p>
<p>Only two presidents were ever impeached and neither was removed from office. The first, Andrew Johnson, was actually innocent. The second was proven to have lied to a federal judge regarding federal charges that he used his position to gain sexual favors. His defenders said &#8220;Well, everybody lies about sex.&#8221;</p>
<p>it did not matter to them that ti was a federal crime.</p>
<p>Lesser officials have twisted the law as they saw fit. Consider W. D. Childers. he got in trouble as county commissioner because he kept acting like he had always done in state office. Yes, he finally got caught but how many do not? Even at that he almost walked and the judge who complained had to face the wrath of the state supreme court for mentioning the judge handling his case had too close of ties with him, the one who wanted to turn him loose out of hand.</p>
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		<title>By: David Huie Green</title>
		<link>http://www.northescambia.com/2009/07/flomaton-police-chief-fired-by-the-towns-mayor/comment-page-1#comment-15532</link>
		<dc:creator>David Huie Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 05:59:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please consider:
&quot;But public officilas who can gain trust and confidence of young people who are having problems can overstep the bounds of the law and take advantage of the situation.&quot;

and the previous statement:

&quot;There comes a time we have to trust our elected officials even when we do not understand the whys.We might not want to know or if we found out we might regret knowing the whole story.&quot;

I wish you could see how they contradict each other.

My hero, Ronald Reagan, used to say, &quot;Trust, but verify&quot; What it really means is, Don&#039;t trust 
or possibly 
People will be as honest as they have to be.

Blindly trusting whoever is in whatever office or position makes as much sense as driving down the road with eyes closed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please consider:<br />
&#8220;But public officilas who can gain trust and confidence of young people who are having problems can overstep the bounds of the law and take advantage of the situation.&#8221;</p>
<p>and the previous statement:</p>
<p>&#8220;There comes a time we have to trust our elected officials even when we do not understand the whys.We might not want to know or if we found out we might regret knowing the whole story.&#8221;</p>
<p>I wish you could see how they contradict each other.</p>
<p>My hero, Ronald Reagan, used to say, &#8220;Trust, but verify&#8221; What it really means is, Don&#8217;t trust<br />
or possibly<br />
People will be as honest as they have to be.</p>
<p>Blindly trusting whoever is in whatever office or position makes as much sense as driving down the road with eyes closed.</p>
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		<title>By: More to the story!!</title>
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		<dc:creator>More to the story!!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 13:31:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Inside scoop,
 I hate to disagree, but we have a good leader and Mayor Bondurant has lead 100 times better than his last two predecessors. Yes, mayor Bondurant has been out patrolling the streets. He responded to complaints Saturday evening to rectify a miss-handled situation. AND YES- Public Officials do have to comply with Morals and Standards concerning their character- Just ask Bill Clinton, or Senator Larry Craig and the Airport Bathroom incident, or Eliot Spitzer and his $1000 prostitute scandal, the lists go on and on. Did any of these incidents have anything to do with their job performance-NO! They are expected to conduct themselves in an upstanding manner as a representation of the citizens they serve. KEY WORD-SERVE, the taxpayers pay these people and expect them to have a good Moral standing in the community. When that is tarnished they, their supervisors and the citizens they represent loose all credibility. AND his selection in officers is questionable. Look into why HE let one go the week before, it wasn&#039;t because of job performance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Inside scoop,<br />
 I hate to disagree, but we have a good leader and Mayor Bondurant has lead 100 times better than his last two predecessors. Yes, mayor Bondurant has been out patrolling the streets. He responded to complaints Saturday evening to rectify a miss-handled situation. AND YES- Public Officials do have to comply with Morals and Standards concerning their character- Just ask Bill Clinton, or Senator Larry Craig and the Airport Bathroom incident, or Eliot Spitzer and his $1000 prostitute scandal, the lists go on and on. Did any of these incidents have anything to do with their job performance-NO! They are expected to conduct themselves in an upstanding manner as a representation of the citizens they serve. KEY WORD-SERVE, the taxpayers pay these people and expect them to have a good Moral standing in the community. When that is tarnished they, their supervisors and the citizens they represent loose all credibility. AND his selection in officers is questionable. Look into why HE let one go the week before, it wasn&#8217;t because of job performance.</p>
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		<title>By: inside scoop</title>
		<link>http://www.northescambia.com/2009/07/flomaton-police-chief-fired-by-the-towns-mayor/comment-page-1#comment-15285</link>
		<dc:creator>inside scoop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 03:27:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First off no ones personal life should have anything to do with their job performance. I know the situation and there is a lot more to it than the mayor wants to say. Tim is a great man and chief who had great visions for the town. He planned on bringing more officers to the community to help with the drugs and conduct of the streets.  Honestly, i would love to see the mayor patrol the streets one night and see how well he would do..we need a city offical that can actually manage the city . Lord please help us ..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First off no ones personal life should have anything to do with their job performance. I know the situation and there is a lot more to it than the mayor wants to say. Tim is a great man and chief who had great visions for the town. He planned on bringing more officers to the community to help with the drugs and conduct of the streets.  Honestly, i would love to see the mayor patrol the streets one night and see how well he would do..we need a city offical that can actually manage the city . Lord please help us ..</p>
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		<title>By: DannyL</title>
		<link>http://www.northescambia.com/2009/07/flomaton-police-chief-fired-by-the-towns-mayor/comment-page-1#comment-15257</link>
		<dc:creator>DannyL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 20:45:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bottom line, WAS THE MAN DOING HIS JOB? Then so what if he and the mayor do not see eye to eye. He is there to enforce the law as the state and other government agencies say it should. Not to be friends with the Mayor. As I believe the mayor himself stated he is not accused of any wrong doing and was a GOOD POLICE OFFICER on the street. Then whats the problem?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bottom line, WAS THE MAN DOING HIS JOB? Then so what if he and the mayor do not see eye to eye. He is there to enforce the law as the state and other government agencies say it should. Not to be friends with the Mayor. As I believe the mayor himself stated he is not accused of any wrong doing and was a GOOD POLICE OFFICER on the street. Then whats the problem?</p>
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		<title>By: Doglover</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doglover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 20:04:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Justa Comment

Tell your neighbor the next time she has a problem with her not so clean mouth neighbor to get her video camera out.  You can&#039;t dispute what you see and hear on camera.  I believe in the power of video!!  When she sees them thru the window with the camera take it to the police.  Hope it works!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Justa Comment</p>
<p>Tell your neighbor the next time she has a problem with her not so clean mouth neighbor to get her video camera out.  You can&#8217;t dispute what you see and hear on camera.  I believe in the power of video!!  When she sees them thru the window with the camera take it to the police.  Hope it works!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Terri Sanders</title>
		<link>http://www.northescambia.com/2009/07/flomaton-police-chief-fired-by-the-towns-mayor/comment-page-1#comment-15214</link>
		<dc:creator>Terri Sanders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 15:24:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For David Green
;investication by the state found that the young girls could not be proven&quot;chaste virgins&quot; so nothing could be done. When written evidence of the officers behavior was provided to the town, the officers were fired. The only recourse the families got were statements that the officers would never hold a position of public trust anywhere again. The good old boy politics won again.
so no more young girls would ever be taken advantage of again.These were not young girls but high school girls that some say &quot;should have known better than participate in activities they knew were wrong&quot;.But public officilas who can gain trust and confidence of young people who are having problems can overstep the bounds of the law and take advantage of the situation.Our  judicial system is not always fair or just! But it is better than any other countires that I know of.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For David Green<br />
;investication by the state found that the young girls could not be proven&#8221;chaste virgins&#8221; so nothing could be done. When written evidence of the officers behavior was provided to the town, the officers were fired. The only recourse the families got were statements that the officers would never hold a position of public trust anywhere again. The good old boy politics won again.<br />
so no more young girls would ever be taken advantage of again.These were not young girls but high school girls that some say &#8220;should have known better than participate in activities they knew were wrong&#8221;.But public officilas who can gain trust and confidence of young people who are having problems can overstep the bounds of the law and take advantage of the situation.Our  judicial system is not always fair or just! But it is better than any other countires that I know of.</p>
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		<title>By: David Huie Green</title>
		<link>http://www.northescambia.com/2009/07/flomaton-police-chief-fired-by-the-towns-mayor/comment-page-1#comment-15178</link>
		<dc:creator>David Huie Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 00:19:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>regarding the Century police department hirings and firings:

What they actually found out was that they could hire easily but firing was hard, well nigh impossible. It was easier to disband the police department than it was to fire an officer with a number of forged instruments convictions.

As far as claims officers were inapproprately involved with young girls, firing is ridiculous in cases where the proper response is arrest for child molesting. If it ever happened, I mean. Imagine telling someone, You can&#039;t do that here anymore but we will let you go do it elsewhere.

Mayor Bondurant&#039;s statement looks silly but he is a reasonable person so I assume the actual reason was reasonable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>regarding the Century police department hirings and firings:</p>
<p>What they actually found out was that they could hire easily but firing was hard, well nigh impossible. It was easier to disband the police department than it was to fire an officer with a number of forged instruments convictions.</p>
<p>As far as claims officers were inapproprately involved with young girls, firing is ridiculous in cases where the proper response is arrest for child molesting. If it ever happened, I mean. Imagine telling someone, You can&#8217;t do that here anymore but we will let you go do it elsewhere.</p>
<p>Mayor Bondurant&#8217;s statement looks silly but he is a reasonable person so I assume the actual reason was reasonable.</p>
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		<title>By: Concerned Citizen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Concerned Citizen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 23:44:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mother .. I understand where you are coming from and I agree with you.. I live in Flomaton and had been hearing things for quite sometime , and was glad to hear he is no longer our Chief. I feel the Mayor did what he and the Council felt they needed to do. I for one do not want a chief that was doing the things I heard. This was not a case of who you know or what you know it was a case of what you were doing. I want a chief I can be proud of and frankly Tim is not one of them THANKS MAYOR BONDURANT! I hope we can find someone now that will make all of us proud..... I have a suggestion but I&#039;ll keep that one to myself .....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mother .. I understand where you are coming from and I agree with you.. I live in Flomaton and had been hearing things for quite sometime , and was glad to hear he is no longer our Chief. I feel the Mayor did what he and the Council felt they needed to do. I for one do not want a chief that was doing the things I heard. This was not a case of who you know or what you know it was a case of what you were doing. I want a chief I can be proud of and frankly Tim is not one of them THANKS MAYOR BONDURANT! I hope we can find someone now that will make all of us proud&#8230;.. I have a suggestion but I&#8217;ll keep that one to myself &#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Justa Comment</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justa Comment</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 03:12:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I, for one, do not know the particulars of the reason that the Chief was fired, but, I did have some problems with the way the department handled some things in general.  For instance, one of my friends in Flomaton has a problem with a neighbor that screams obsenities at her children when ever they play in their own yard.  They have filed numerous complaints, all to no avail.  Each time they do this, the unruly neighbor retaliates, always in a different way.  My friends went to the station to file a complaint about how the responding officers felt they could do nothing.  Personally, I disagree, they should have arrested the individual for disturbing the peace if nothing else.  Maybe we&#039;ll never know for sure why Tim was fired, but I think that the police need to do the job of protecting the public, not only peacefully, but aggressively, when they are protecting children.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I, for one, do not know the particulars of the reason that the Chief was fired, but, I did have some problems with the way the department handled some things in general.  For instance, one of my friends in Flomaton has a problem with a neighbor that screams obsenities at her children when ever they play in their own yard.  They have filed numerous complaints, all to no avail.  Each time they do this, the unruly neighbor retaliates, always in a different way.  My friends went to the station to file a complaint about how the responding officers felt they could do nothing.  Personally, I disagree, they should have arrested the individual for disturbing the peace if nothing else.  Maybe we&#8217;ll never know for sure why Tim was fired, but I think that the police need to do the job of protecting the public, not only peacefully, but aggressively, when they are protecting children.</p>
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