Comments on: Judge’s Order: No Prayer During School Events, No Religion In Schools http://www.northescambia.com/2009/01/judges-order-no-more-prayer-during-school-events-no-religion-in-schools Local News for Molino, Bratt, McDavid, Century, Walnut Hill, Cantonment Mon, 20 Apr 2026 10:23:56 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: John Doe http://www.northescambia.com/2009/01/judges-order-no-more-prayer-during-school-events-no-religion-in-schools/comment-page-1#comment-342873 John Doe Sat, 13 May 2017 08:15:54 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=5961#comment-342873 Me and my family will pray whenever and wherever we choose to pray. God is the ultimate authority and we refuse to bow down to tyranny in any form. Me and my family will pray whenever and wherever we choose to pray. God is the ultimate authority and we refuse to bow down to tyranny in any form.

]]> By: greg http://www.northescambia.com/2009/01/judges-order-no-more-prayer-during-school-events-no-religion-in-schools/comment-page-1#comment-19113 greg Mon, 31 Aug 2009 03:46:48 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=5961#comment-19113 Ok , so if we all ban together and pray it is ok ? right? if kids ban together at school and pray it is illegal. hummmm wow. So let me get this straight no praying at school. Fine. Now if our students ALL get together and pray every day ...... will they suspend the students? ALL OF THEM? I am aware that a 1 minute prayer (moment of silence ) is allowed. But how bout before each class? Before a meal? After class thanking GOD for a wonderfull learning experience? Will the entire student body be suspended? If so then the 2 students that complained would have the whole school to themselves ... correct? I say lets do it, lets go above and beyond what is called for, lets use the power of prayer to lift us up and go beyond. All parents should go to school with there child each morning and pray ... but not disrupt the school activity. Now if a crazed gun child came in and started shooting at our kids, would you pray? If a child was raped at school by another student would you pray?If your child was beaten by other students would you pray?If your child was introduced to drugs at his or her school would you pray? This is a moral issue for sure, taking prayer out of school is a great idea in a secular country .... yes? hummmm Okay dont pray and continue our downward spiral of corruption in our schools. Dont believe me ? HOW COME THEY HAVE A RIGHTS AND RULES doctrine? For those that say the school is a public place not a private place this is true. However there is no church that would turn you away is there?Yes govt. and schools are seperate about GOD IF YOU DONT BELIEVE ME JUST PULL A DOLLAR OR A COIN OUT OF YOUR POCKET. Look at the fine print....... IN GOD WE TRUST. YES you are correct in saying if the public pays taxes for schools then it should not be religious beliefs .... HELLO SIR YOUR IN GOD WE TRUST PUBLIC MONEY PAYS FOR OUR SCHOOLS. You sir are the single problem with our society . One in a million trying to dictate your twisted rights upon us Americans. Guess what sir there is a nice country out there looking for a few good men such as yourself. STAND UP AMERICA DEFEND IN GOD WE TRUST .......OR DO YOU ? Ok , so if we all ban together and pray it is ok ? right? if kids ban together at school and pray it is illegal. hummmm wow. So let me get this straight no praying at school. Fine. Now if our students ALL get together and pray every day …… will they suspend the students? ALL OF THEM? I am aware that a 1 minute prayer (moment of silence ) is allowed. But how bout before each class? Before a meal? After class thanking GOD for a wonderfull learning experience? Will the entire student body be suspended? If so then the 2 students that complained would have the whole school to themselves … correct? I say lets do it, lets go above and beyond what is called for, lets use the power of prayer to lift us up and go beyond. All parents should go to school with there child each morning and pray … but not disrupt the school activity. Now if a crazed gun child came in and started shooting at our kids, would you pray? If a child was raped at school by another student would you pray?If your child was beaten by other students would you pray?If your child was introduced to drugs at his or her school would you pray? This is a moral issue for sure, taking prayer out of school is a great idea in a secular country …. yes? hummmm Okay dont pray and continue our downward spiral of corruption in our schools. Dont believe me ? HOW COME THEY HAVE A RIGHTS AND RULES doctrine? For those that say the school is a public place not a private place this is true. However there is no church that would turn you away is there?Yes govt. and schools are seperate about GOD IF YOU DONT BELIEVE ME JUST PULL A DOLLAR OR A COIN OUT OF YOUR POCKET. Look at the fine print……. IN GOD WE TRUST. YES you are correct in saying if the public pays taxes for schools then it should not be religious beliefs …. HELLO SIR YOUR IN GOD WE TRUST PUBLIC MONEY PAYS FOR OUR SCHOOLS. You sir are the single problem with our society . One in a million trying to dictate your twisted rights upon us Americans. Guess what sir there is a nice country out there looking for a few good men such as yourself. STAND UP AMERICA DEFEND IN GOD WE TRUST …….OR DO YOU ?

]]> By: William mc http://www.northescambia.com/2009/01/judges-order-no-more-prayer-during-school-events-no-religion-in-schools/comment-page-1#comment-16880 William mc Sun, 02 Aug 2009 23:39:19 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=5961#comment-16880 The Federal judges need to be voted in or out.They and the ACLU will .destroy American.Call your congress. The Federal judges need to be voted in or out.They and the ACLU will .destroy American.Call your congress.

]]> By: Sam http://www.northescambia.com/2009/01/judges-order-no-more-prayer-during-school-events-no-religion-in-schools/comment-page-1#comment-9926 Sam Wed, 29 Apr 2009 20:48:26 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=5961#comment-9926 While the Constitution doesn't say "separation of Church and State", it does say that the government will not set up a national religion. The problem when you have schools sponsoring prayer is that it violates the rights of other peoples' religions. If you sponsor Christian prayer, you have to sponsor Islamic prayer, Judaic prayer, Buddhist prayer. The state cannot sponsor one religion over another. Period. It is a violation of personal freedoms. If a group of people want to pray before a game they're welcome to. BUT it cannot be sponsored by the school or by any teacher or coach. It is pure ignorance to spout the ridiculous accusations of God-haters. It is possible to take a stand for freedom and still be a person of faith. I am actually a Christian myself. But, no matter how much you want to delude yourselves, the United States is NOT a country of Christianity. It is a country of every religion. I'm sorry you feel it is a personal sleight that you aren't allowed to forcibly preach the Bible to everyone, but you don't see major uprising about Islamic prayer not being allowed in schools, or Jews not getting koscher meat. The bottom line is this; Religion is a personal thing. School is a public thing. Personal and Private are two different things. Let's keep them that way. While the Constitution doesn’t say “separation of Church and State”, it does say that the government will not set up a national religion. The problem when you have schools sponsoring prayer is that it violates the rights of other peoples’ religions. If you sponsor Christian prayer, you have to sponsor Islamic prayer, Judaic prayer, Buddhist prayer. The state cannot sponsor one religion over another. Period. It is a violation of personal freedoms. If a group of people want to pray before a game they’re welcome to. BUT it cannot be sponsored by the school or by any teacher or coach.

It is pure ignorance to spout the ridiculous accusations of God-haters. It is possible to take a stand for freedom and still be a person of faith. I am actually a Christian myself. But, no matter how much you want to delude yourselves, the United States is NOT a country of Christianity. It is a country of every religion. I’m sorry you feel it is a personal sleight that you aren’t allowed to forcibly preach the Bible to everyone, but you don’t see major uprising about Islamic prayer not being allowed in schools, or Jews not getting koscher meat.

The bottom line is this; Religion is a personal thing. School is a public thing. Personal and Private are two different things. Let’s keep them that way.

]]> By: Dennis Joned http://www.northescambia.com/2009/01/judges-order-no-more-prayer-during-school-events-no-religion-in-schools/comment-page-1#comment-9893 Dennis Joned Wed, 29 Apr 2009 14:47:03 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=5961#comment-9893 Sorry gchavers, the Constitution does not say "Separation of Church and State". You have heard this and assumed it is in the Constitution...but it is not. But what is in the Constitution is "Congress shall make no law establishing a state of religion NOR PROHIBITING the FREE EXERCISE thereof. Have you read that part? You need to read the Constitution for yourself instead of taking the quote Separation of Church and State that you have heard so many years, and is only put there by anti-religious people. The one on the courts that threw religion out of courts on this principle should be impeached because they have broken the Constitution. Sorry gchavers, the Constitution does not say “Separation of Church and State”.
You have heard this and assumed it is in the Constitution…but it is not. But what is in the Constitution is “Congress shall make no law establishing a state of religion NOR PROHIBITING the FREE EXERCISE thereof. Have you read that part? You need to read the Constitution for yourself instead of taking the quote
Separation of Church and State that you have heard so many years, and is only put there by anti-religious people. The one on the courts that threw religion out of courts on this principle should be impeached because they have broken the Constitution.

]]> By: cudas http://www.northescambia.com/2009/01/judges-order-no-more-prayer-during-school-events-no-religion-in-schools/comment-page-1#comment-6155 cudas Mon, 09 Feb 2009 16:27:15 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=5961#comment-6155 i think prayer in school should be allowed. it DOES NOT state in the constitution...... I SAY LET OUR STUDENTS PRAY!!!! i think prayer in school should be allowed. it DOES NOT state in the constitution…… I SAY LET OUR STUDENTS PRAY!!!!

]]> By: Lyra Zeller http://www.northescambia.com/2009/01/judges-order-no-more-prayer-during-school-events-no-religion-in-schools/comment-page-1#comment-5654 Lyra Zeller Fri, 23 Jan 2009 16:26:12 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=5961#comment-5654 1) Separation of Church and State is NOT in the Constitution. That statement is from a letter written by Thomas Jefferson. The Constitution states that: "CONGRESS shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, NOR prohibiting the free exercise there of." I think Justice Scalia summerizes best, "freedom of religion, not freedom from religion." 2) When prayer is recited at a school event, or any other event, that is not the creation of a law. That is what was intended by the First Amendment; if people of their own free will choose to pray, they may. If they choose not to, they may not. By creating a precedent for banned prayers the state IS creating a de facto law concerning religion. The people are no longer free to exercise as they wish because the State said so. 1) Separation of Church and State is NOT in the Constitution. That statement is from a letter written by Thomas Jefferson. The Constitution states that: “CONGRESS shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, NOR prohibiting the free exercise there of.” I think Justice Scalia summerizes best, “freedom of religion, not freedom from religion.”
2) When prayer is recited at a school event, or any other event, that is not the creation of a law. That is what was intended by the First Amendment; if people of their own free will choose to pray, they may. If they choose not to, they may not. By creating a precedent for banned prayers the state IS creating a de facto law concerning religion. The people are no longer free to exercise as they wish because the State said so.

]]> By: Darryl Hall http://www.northescambia.com/2009/01/judges-order-no-more-prayer-during-school-events-no-religion-in-schools/comment-page-1#comment-5433 Darryl Hall Fri, 16 Jan 2009 15:53:38 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=5961#comment-5433 Some of you are right the Constitution does not say "separation of church and state" but it does say the government will not establish any one religion within the frame work of government and that there shall be no religious test for anyone running for office (how many wanted to trash that one this past election based on false rumors?). The bottom line is the forefathers, some of who were not Christians, but Diest, knew first hand the problems when a government establishes any one religion in its policies and framework. Look at England and its establishing of religion and how it has impacted its history, especially with Ireland, or look at southern Europe who in the middle ages allowed the Catholic Church to dominant public policy with the result being the inquisition where men, women and children (girls as young as 8 and boys as young as 9) where imprisoned for long periods of time, tortured (water torture being the most used which we call waterboarding today) and in some cases burning at the stake. Economically the region which gave us the Greek and Roman Empires, has never recovered from the church's fight against scientific discoveries or other developments. So there are bigger issues here, and I know some will say Jews shouldn't dictate policy because they are Jesus killers, but that, under scrunity of scholars and researchers, doesn't hold up, and we need to be more accepting of others. Some of you are right the Constitution does not say “separation of church and state” but it does say the government will not establish any one religion within the frame work of government and that there shall be no religious test for anyone running for office (how many wanted to trash that one this past election based on false rumors?). The bottom line is the forefathers, some of who were not Christians, but Diest, knew first hand the problems when a government establishes any one religion in its policies and framework. Look at England and its establishing of religion and how it has impacted its history, especially with Ireland, or look at southern Europe who in the middle ages allowed the Catholic Church to dominant public policy with the result being the inquisition where men, women and children (girls as young as 8 and boys as young as 9) where imprisoned for long periods of time, tortured (water torture being the most used which we call waterboarding today) and in some cases burning at the stake. Economically the region which gave us the Greek and Roman Empires, has never recovered from the church’s fight against scientific discoveries or other developments. So there are bigger issues here, and I know some will say Jews shouldn’t dictate policy because they are Jesus killers, but that, under scrunity of scholars and researchers, doesn’t hold up, and we need to be more accepting of others.

]]> By: gchavers http://www.northescambia.com/2009/01/judges-order-no-more-prayer-during-school-events-no-religion-in-schools/comment-page-1#comment-5406 gchavers Fri, 16 Jan 2009 00:35:16 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=5961#comment-5406 the constitution says separation of church and state. some one saying a prayer at a sports event is not the church and the sports arena nor the school is the state. the constitution says separation of church and state. some one saying a prayer at a sports event is not the church and the sports arena nor the school is the state.

]]> By: Clint Davis http://www.northescambia.com/2009/01/judges-order-no-more-prayer-during-school-events-no-religion-in-schools/comment-page-1#comment-5352 Clint Davis Thu, 15 Jan 2009 12:59:44 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=5961#comment-5352 You know, if an atheist is offended by prayer everyone has to stand down and give him/her what he/she wants. If a Christian is offended by the ruling of no prayer, then there's nothing that can be done. This makes no sense to me. It's as if the rights of one are more important than the rights of another. This wasn't what our country was founded on. Separation of church and state doesn't mean that you can't do anything religious, it means that the state cannot set up a regulated religion. I don't care what any judge says, I can pray any time I want to; that's my God-given right and nobody's allowed to take it away from me. Christians are supposed to be humble, but not complacent. And one final question for the world to answer: Why is it the ACLU will fight for everyone except a Christian? What did we do to them for them to discriminate against us? I thought they were for the civil liberties of all, not just a select few. You know, if an atheist is offended by prayer everyone has to stand down and give him/her what he/she wants. If a Christian is offended by the ruling of no prayer, then there’s nothing that can be done. This makes no sense to me. It’s as if the rights of one are more important than the rights of another. This wasn’t what our country was founded on. Separation of church and state doesn’t mean that you can’t do anything religious, it means that the state cannot set up a regulated religion. I don’t care what any judge says, I can pray any time I want to; that’s my God-given right and nobody’s allowed to take it away from me. Christians are supposed to be humble, but not complacent. And one final question for the world to answer: Why is it the ACLU will fight for everyone except a Christian? What did we do to them for them to discriminate against us? I thought they were for the civil liberties of all, not just a select few.

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