Comments on: Carver/Century’s ‘B’ Grade Really A ‘D’ Without The Benefit Of State Rule http://www.northescambia.com/2009/01/carvercenturys-b-grade-really-a-d-without-the-benefit-of-state-rule Local News for Molino, Bratt, McDavid, Century, Walnut Hill, Cantonment Mon, 20 Apr 2026 10:23:56 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Williard Purell http://www.northescambia.com/2009/01/carvercenturys-b-grade-really-a-d-without-the-benefit-of-state-rule/comment-page-1#comment-5339 Williard Purell Wed, 14 Jan 2009 22:50:56 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=5952#comment-5339 Now isn't the truth ugly. Yes, sometimes it is. Many have known for the past 20 -27 years, I've known that there are TEACHERS, yes, I said it, TEACHERS who should not have been at Caver or Century. Some commanded such a Personal Presents and knowing the right people in P'cola/county ups, that parents and co-workers were afraid to say anything. But the results speak for themselves. Teachers past from school to school then they end up at one of these schools or now one school, C/C. Ask some TEACHERS, facult;y, How many schools have you taught in? Some TEACHERS have been to eight or more schools just in Escambia Fl?AL.. You combine this with the enviorment, parent support, (there wasn't any) economy of the people and it is complete disaster! Those that work and worked at these school knew and know the truth. Over the last 6-8 years it has been a spiral downward. It was not one thing but many who caused this death. Just out of knowing if this is true ask or better yet visit the school now or just ask around. Some former students, who teach there now are there. Ma;ybe they will finally admit what goes/went on. former student and now parent Now isn’t the truth ugly. Yes, sometimes it is. Many have known for the past 20 -27 years, I’ve known that there are TEACHERS, yes, I said it, TEACHERS who should not have been at Caver or Century. Some commanded such a Personal Presents and knowing the right people in P’cola/county ups, that parents and co-workers were afraid to say anything. But the results speak for themselves. Teachers past from school to school then they end up at one of these schools or now one school, C/C. Ask some TEACHERS, facult;y, How many schools have you taught in? Some TEACHERS have been to eight or more schools just in Escambia Fl?AL.. You combine this with the enviorment, parent support, (there wasn’t any) economy of the people and it is complete disaster! Those that work and worked at these school knew and know the truth. Over the last 6-8 years it has been a spiral downward. It was not one thing but many who caused this death.
Just out of knowing if this is true ask or better yet visit the school now or just ask around. Some former students, who teach there now are there. Ma;ybe they will finally admit what goes/went on.

former student and now parent

]]> By: Jay http://www.northescambia.com/2009/01/carvercenturys-b-grade-really-a-d-without-the-benefit-of-state-rule/comment-page-1#comment-5326 Jay Wed, 14 Jan 2009 16:22:23 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=5952#comment-5326 Another thought on the subjective "B" grade. Weren't FCAT performance bonuses paid out to Carver/Century due to the phantom increase in the "grade?" If so, how much money was "given" away, and if this happened, it's a slap in the face to the schools that really did earn a good grade on the test. Another thought on the subjective “B” grade. Weren’t FCAT performance bonuses paid out to Carver/Century due to the phantom increase in the “grade?” If so, how much money was “given” away, and if this happened, it’s a slap in the face to the schools that really did earn a good grade on the test.

]]> By: Elizabeth http://www.northescambia.com/2009/01/carvercenturys-b-grade-really-a-d-without-the-benefit-of-state-rule/comment-page-1#comment-5321 Elizabeth Wed, 14 Jan 2009 15:09:45 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=5952#comment-5321 This sort of goes along with what teacher was saying. When I was a student, I sort of liked portables. I really loved the fact that they had their own air conditioning unit! They seemed better organized and maybe even roomier. Well, that all changed when I was in seventh grade. We had a tornado touch down dangerously close to the school. Our class had to run WAY across campus to the nearest sturdy structure. That was totally terrifying to have to run for my life when debris was circling everywhere. Every day since I was really scared to have class in a portable. Portable classrooms may be better constructed now, I guess. That was in the 90's. This sort of goes along with what teacher was saying.

When I was a student, I sort of liked portables. I really loved the fact that they had their own air conditioning unit! They seemed better organized and maybe even roomier.

Well, that all changed when I was in seventh grade. We had a tornado touch down dangerously close to the school. Our class had to run WAY across campus to the nearest sturdy structure. That was totally terrifying to have to run for my life when debris was circling everywhere. Every day since I was really scared to have class in a portable.

Portable classrooms may be better constructed now, I guess. That was in the 90’s.

]]> By: teacher with a passion http://www.northescambia.com/2009/01/carvercenturys-b-grade-really-a-d-without-the-benefit-of-state-rule/comment-page-1#comment-5286 teacher with a passion Tue, 13 Jan 2009 22:00:34 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=5952#comment-5286 David Leroy said: "SO WHAT WE ARE DOING IS MIXING A “D” WITH AN “A”. IT SEEM TO ME THAT THE PROBLEM IS STILL GOING TO BE THERE. YOU ARE ONLY GOING TO AVERAGE THESE KID IN WITH THE OTHERS AT BRATT AND ERNEST WARD. WHY NOT FIX THE PROBLEM INSTEAD OF HIDDING IT." So not true. You are not going to "fix" low performing students just by snapping your fingers. However mixing them in with high performing peers is one of the ways to help to fix it. If you always keep them with low performing peers they know no better. Set a better example for them, raise the bar, and the students of this county will live up to it. I've seen it happen over and over. David Leroy said:
“SO WHAT WE ARE DOING IS MIXING A “D” WITH AN “A”. IT SEEM TO ME THAT THE PROBLEM IS STILL GOING TO BE THERE. YOU ARE ONLY GOING TO
AVERAGE THESE KID IN WITH THE OTHERS AT BRATT AND ERNEST WARD.
WHY NOT FIX THE PROBLEM INSTEAD OF HIDDING IT.”

So not true. You are not going to “fix” low performing students just by snapping your fingers. However mixing them in with high performing peers is one of the ways to help to fix it. If you always keep them with low performing peers they know no better. Set a better example for them, raise the bar, and the students of this county will live up to it. I’ve seen it happen over and over.

]]> By: david leroy moorer http://www.northescambia.com/2009/01/carvercenturys-b-grade-really-a-d-without-the-benefit-of-state-rule/comment-page-1#comment-5285 david leroy moorer Tue, 13 Jan 2009 21:42:20 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=5952#comment-5285 SO WHAT WE ARE DOING IS MIXING A "D" WITH AN "A". IT SEEM TO ME THAT THE PROBLEM IS STILL GOING TO BE THERE. YOU ARE ONLY GOING TO AVERAGE THESE KID IN WITH THE OTHERS AT BRATT AND ERNEST WARD. WHY NOT FIX THE PROBLEM INSTEAD OF HIDDING IT. LET REMEMBER THAT WE ELECTED JIM PAUL JR. SO WHAT WE ARE DOING IS MIXING A “D” WITH AN “A”. IT SEEM TO ME THAT THE PROBLEM IS STILL GOING TO BE THERE. YOU ARE ONLY GOING TO
AVERAGE THESE KID IN WITH THE OTHERS AT BRATT AND ERNEST WARD.
WHY NOT FIX THE PROBLEM INSTEAD OF HIDDING IT. LET REMEMBER THAT
WE ELECTED JIM PAUL JR.

]]> By: Chuck http://www.northescambia.com/2009/01/carvercenturys-b-grade-really-a-d-without-the-benefit-of-state-rule/comment-page-1#comment-5282 Chuck Tue, 13 Jan 2009 20:11:00 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=5952#comment-5282 Taxpayer... My comments were on all the bellyaching about portable classrooms and how some think that they are not conducive to learning, not the mode of transportation used to get to school. Please be more attentive in the future. Taxpayer… My comments were on all the bellyaching about portable classrooms and how some think that they are not conducive to learning, not the mode of transportation used to get to school. Please be more attentive in the future.

]]> By: teacher with a passion http://www.northescambia.com/2009/01/carvercenturys-b-grade-really-a-d-without-the-benefit-of-state-rule/comment-page-1#comment-5274 teacher with a passion Tue, 13 Jan 2009 18:25:09 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=5952#comment-5274 #1 to address the issues of portables People get over the whole aspect of portable equals a shed. These portables are brought in from other schools and refurbished on site. I taught my first 4 years in a portable. I actually preferred it over being in the main building. Believe it or not depending on which school site you are at there are definite advantages to being in a portable. All of these portables have a restroom in them, this eliminates all of the downtime that comes from having to line your entire class up and take them to the restrooms down the hall as in some facilties. Many of them also have water fountains which help for the same reasons. The portables are great for noise control. Have you ever been in a 2 story school and experienced the noise that comes from the floor above you? I have. It is extremely distracting to both the students and the teacher. Trust me these portables are just as good and sometimes better than many of our core facility classrooms. The only thing that can not be put into a portable classroom is a phone line, and so what who wants the teacher on the phone during the school day anyway. #2 The Superintendent's sharing of the truth of the school grade. Okay people you wanted and elected a leader who told you he would give you transparency like you've never had before. Guess what now you've got it. Don't sit there and complain well we didn't know that. Of course you didn't because no other administration would take the time to explain it to you in this way and admit that the school wasn't truly a B. So no there is no trickery, no dishonesty, or foolery. This is simply transparency of the rules of the state, how they work, and how the tricks of these rules impact each and every school's grade. Don't like it? Contact your legistlator, nothing the superintendent can do about it. #3 As far as worrying about who benefits from the building and the $1 and year deal with the church. Get over it. You can not blame the current superintendent for the mistakes and decisions of the past administration. Mr. Thomas has laid out his reasons for you. The community has shown that it doesn't truly believe in this school by its own uninvolvement in the school; check the declining enrollment. You can not continue to run a school that is loosing a million dollars a year. Not in these economic times of deep budget cuts and layoffs, you must be able to separate your emotions from your budget and logic in this case. #1 to address the issues of portables
People get over the whole aspect of portable equals a shed. These portables are brought in from other schools and refurbished on site. I taught my first 4 years in a portable. I actually preferred it over being in the main building. Believe it or not depending on which school site you are at there are definite advantages to being in a portable. All of these portables have a restroom in them, this eliminates all of the downtime that comes from having to line your entire class up and take them to the restrooms down the hall as in some facilties. Many of them also have water fountains which help for the same reasons. The portables are great for noise control. Have you ever been in a 2 story school and experienced the noise that comes from the floor above you? I have. It is extremely distracting to both the students and the teacher. Trust me these portables are just as good and sometimes better than many of our core facility classrooms. The only thing that can not be put into a portable classroom is a phone line, and so what who wants the teacher on the phone during the school day anyway.

#2 The Superintendent’s sharing of the truth of the school grade.
Okay people you wanted and elected a leader who told you he would give you transparency like you’ve never had before. Guess what now you’ve got it. Don’t sit there and complain well we didn’t know that. Of course you didn’t because no other administration would take the time to explain it to you in this way and admit that the school wasn’t truly a B. So no there is no trickery, no dishonesty, or foolery. This is simply transparency of the rules of the state, how they work, and how the tricks of these rules impact each and every school’s grade. Don’t like it? Contact your legistlator, nothing the superintendent can do about it.

#3 As far as worrying about who benefits from the building and the $1 and year deal with the church.
Get over it. You can not blame the current superintendent for the mistakes and decisions of the past administration. Mr. Thomas has laid out his reasons for you. The community has shown that it doesn’t truly believe in this school by its own uninvolvement in the school; check the declining enrollment. You can not continue to run a school that is loosing a million dollars a year. Not in these economic times of deep budget cuts and layoffs, you must be able to separate your emotions from your budget and logic in this case.

]]> By: Taxpayer http://www.northescambia.com/2009/01/carvercenturys-b-grade-really-a-d-without-the-benefit-of-state-rule/comment-page-1#comment-5244 Taxpayer Tue, 13 Jan 2009 14:19:54 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=5952#comment-5244 "Chuck" Come on...really, back when Abe Lincoln went to School..everyone walked or road horses, Now everyone rides a bus....even you could come up with something better I'm sure! fact is Everyone is "ONLY" looking out for their own little piece of the pie! I have no dog in this hunt. But it is Amazing to read into the battle lines drawn by both Ernestward and the Century folks? ture fact here is Molino was originally Constructed and this plan was SOLD to the taxpayers as a K-8, which in turn would have solved both issues! But again the normal School District Politics came into Play and knowing this would have Closed E.W.M.S they choose to make Molino a Elem. Site! Taxpayers take it again? Poor Leadership and everyone knows it! About the Commit from "Who Cares" Your 100% RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! but until the political problems are solved and the Family issues are removed, this is what happens in the end..and really I don't care what anyone say's all students deserve to attend class in a nice enviroment..not stuck in a hall closet or portable. ask the students which they would prefer? “Chuck”
Come on…really, back when Abe Lincoln went to School..everyone walked or road horses, Now everyone rides a bus….even you could come up with something better I’m sure! fact is Everyone is “ONLY” looking out for their own little piece of the pie! I have no dog in this hunt. But it is Amazing to read into the battle lines drawn by both Ernestward and the Century folks? ture fact here is Molino was originally Constructed and this plan was SOLD to the taxpayers as a K-8, which in turn would have solved both issues! But again the normal School District Politics came into Play and knowing this would have Closed E.W.M.S they choose to make Molino a Elem. Site! Taxpayers take it again? Poor Leadership and everyone knows it!
About the Commit from “Who Cares” Your 100% RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! but until the political problems are solved and the Family issues are removed, this is what happens in the end..and really I don’t care what anyone say’s all students deserve to attend class in a nice enviroment..not stuck in a hall closet or portable. ask the students which they would prefer?

]]> By: who cares http://www.northescambia.com/2009/01/carvercenturys-b-grade-really-a-d-without-the-benefit-of-state-rule/comment-page-1#comment-5228 who cares Tue, 13 Jan 2009 03:17:53 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=5952#comment-5228 There should be one school for k thru 8. Kids should go to school togrther and then to Northview. There should be one school for k thru 8. Kids should go to school togrther and then to Northview.

]]> By: Redhead http://www.northescambia.com/2009/01/carvercenturys-b-grade-really-a-d-without-the-benefit-of-state-rule/comment-page-1#comment-5226 Redhead Tue, 13 Jan 2009 02:14:39 +0000 http://www.northescambia.com/?p=5952#comment-5226 Amazing how this grading business is suddenly the topic from the Superintendent. Justification I guess is the thought with this one. I guess thats the only valid reason in his opinion that he can come up with to close down the school there. Probably take about 50 buses to get him over there if they rely on downtown to make the busing decisions. Amazing how this grading business is suddenly the topic from the Superintendent. Justification I guess is the thought with this one. I guess thats the only valid reason in his opinion that he can come up with to close down the school there. Probably take about 50 buses to get him over there if they rely on downtown to make the busing decisions.

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